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Help us tell the court what electricity consumers really think

Help us tell the court what electricity consumers really think

It’s crunch time for the future of your power bills and the difference this time is we can do something about it by collecting together our views.

If you’re fed up, as I believe many of us are, with others deciding what is in our best interests we are in a position as rarely before to let them hear it from the horses’ mouth.

Networks NSW is fighting power price cuts of $106-$313 proposed by the national Energy Regulator, saying they are not in consumers’ long-term interests.

The Australian Competition Tribunal has been hearing opposing arguments, but the court is yet to hear from consumers themselves and this is where you come in.

It’s fair enough for elders to dictate what might be in kid’s best interests, as any parent knows, but surely in FiftyUp we are savvy enough to speak for ourselves and with some authority.

A recent FiftyUp Club survey found some shocking results, with more than half saying they were afraid to run their heater in mid-winter. 

Those results will form part of our submission to the court hearing the legal battle.

But now, there’s one more piece we need to add to the puzzle:

What is in the long-term interests of consumers when it comes to setting power prices? Safety? Affordability? Reliability?

Have regulators got the balance right in recent years?

The court has been debating these questions the past week and we want to ask real consumers what THEY think.

Consumers over the age of fifty represent more than 50% of national household buying power and are heavily affected by power price fluctuations.

Who knows? You might have a different view to the lawyers currently making this decision on our behalf. Only you can tell us the answer to that.

The court must decide the right level of investment in the poles and wires. No one wants to see important assets run down, but all investment is funded through your bills, so it’s important to get the balance right. 

Fill in this short questionnaire and we’ll make sure your voice is heard in the current court battle over power prices.

We will be providing your answers directly to the Judge who will make the final decision. 

But first, we need 1000s of you to have your say:

Click Here to answer 5 key questions for the court

Then continue the conversation in the forum below.

 

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Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

ONLY IN AUSTRALIA will we elect a government who allows for an open cut mine to be dug right in the heart of Australia's food bowl (when we all know that by 2040, FOOD will be the 'object' of concern to all the world countries...) , in the middle of the Liverpool Plains, soon affecting the Murray darling water and any water really beneath that mine! We are a silly lot, aren't we? And as if common sense was not enough (where is 'common sense' gone under the coalition???) Baird said this morning that only SCIENCE will tell if the idea of this mine is good or bad !!! YOU D H ! 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

"controlled by the thieves in power" writes justly Kenneth... Something Hunt nor Abbott won't advertise when they'll go to Paris later this year: Australian taxpayers subsidise fossil fuel-friendly tax breaks for big polluters. There are better ways to spend our taxes than handouts to the companies with devastating environmental records who actively lobby our leaders to stifle action on climate change. G20 governments of the world first commited to phase out fossil fuel subsidies in September 2009, recognising that “fossil fuel subsidies encourage wasteful consumption, distrort markets, impede investment in clean energy sources and undermine efforts to deal with climate change”. But since Australia made that commitment, it has continued to deny that we, as a nation, subsidise fossil fuels. ACF has been monitoring what first began as it’s ‘dirty dozen’ fossil fuel subsidies for years, highlighting a long list of over $7 billion in fossil fuel subsidies. The biggest of these are the diesel fuel handouts to the miners – called the fuel tax credits scheme. This is a tax payer handout to big miners worth $2 billion per year. This equates to $182 per taxpayer every year, and worth a staggering $9.4 billion over the next four years to some of the most profitable companies operating in this country. This is a much greater cost than the carbon price will have on households. These wasteful, inefficient handouts will continue to promote fossil fuel use at a staggering rate of $4,480 of taxpayer dollars per minute, day in, day out. The politically powerful mining lobby has got its way in Australian public policy at last year’s may Federal Budget – again. While the rest of us pay 38c a litre in taxes at the bowser, these companies are mining the public purse and in the process they are making climate change worse. .../... 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

(continued 2 of 2) The oil and gas industry also gets a massive tax break through so called “accelerated depreciation” that is rising towards a staggering $2 billion per year by 2018 to companies who again are making record profits. A recent survey found that 77% of Australian's support scrapping these fossil fuel subsidies to the big miners. 

Kenneth
Kenneth from NSW commented:

We are being controlled by the thieves in power, selling off our assets (government) to feather their own nests at the expense of all Australians (new and old). There should be a national enquiry controlled by the public into all the affairs of our politicians, and disclose where the money flow takes us.. which will definitely expose the culprits.. The Anzacs fought for this country , only for the politicians to steal every conceivable profitable assets that belongs to the citizens of Australia.. I think they call it embezzlement or more aptly put.. TREASON 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

Australia can be a global solar and wind superpower, and the CEFC is the key: And that is where the $10 billion Clean Energy Finance Corporation – again under fire by the Abbott government – is absolutely crucial. Despite what the government has been saying, the role of the CEFC has never been to back emerging or even "mature" renewable energy technologies. That role belongs to the Australian Renewable Energy Agency – which the government would also like to abolish if it could get the numbers in the Senate. We have a totally obnoxious PM surrounded by 'as obnoxious' ministers and they are taking us back in time with no vision what so ever for Australia. 

david
david from NSW commented:

If solar and wind power is so good let private enterprise invest in it and put their own money in it don't put public money in it by subsidies 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to david:

Why pay taxes? To line the pockets of pollies? Only? 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

OR HOW TO HELP YOUR MATE BAIRD AT SELLING HIS POLES AND WIRES... AND HOW TO PAY MORE FOR YOUR ELECTRICITY, MIDDLE TO LONG TERM... 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to david:

Renewables Re-energized: Green Energy Investments Worldwide Surge 17% to $270 Billion in 2014 According to UNEP's 9th "Global Trends in Renewable Energy Investment 2015", prepared by the Frankfurt School-UNEP Collaborating Centre for Climate & Sustainable Energy Finance and Bloomberg New Energy Finance, the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) and Bloomberg New Energy Finance — the past year brought a rebound of green energy investments worldwide with a surge of a solid 17% to $270 Billion. Brushing aside the challenge of sharply lower crude oil prices this sudden increase reveresed the investment dip of the past two years and was mainly driven by investments in solar and wind energy. China saw by far the biggest renewable energy investments in 2014 — a record $83.3 billion, up 39% from 2013. The US was second at $38.3 billion, up 7% on the year but well below its all-time high reached in 2011. Third came Japan, at $35.7 billion, 10% higher than in 2013 and its biggest total ever. WHY ARE WE ALWAYS LEFT BEHIND, NOW, IN AUSTRALIA? WHY ARE INDONESIAN REFUSING TO PURCHASE OUR CATTLE? WHY ARE WE LAGGING BEHIND THE REST OF THE WORLD IN ALMOST EVERY DOMAINS? WHY DID YOU PUT A D H AT THE HELM OF AUSTRALIA? 

david
david from NSW commented:

why did we put a dick head at the helm? perhaps you would prefer a fuckwit like shorten there instead? we actually lead the world in lots of things Indonesia are taking less cattle because we are stupid enough to sell them our farms so they grow there own lots of countries are pulling down wind farms now they are waking up to the damage they do and cannot supply a base load for power 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to david:

YOU ARE SO NAIVE, David: guess how much this toxic government's policies are determined by the funding of their party? The fossil fuel industry is one of the most generous "benefactor" to the Libs... Worse: According to The Australia Institute, the fossil fuel industry receives more than $10 billion per year in government subsidies, with the mining industry hogging most of it. The diesel fuel rebate or Fuel Tax Credit Scheme, is worth $4 billion per year. It might have been designed originally for farmers, but the lion’s share goes to the mining industry. In 2012, nine out of ten people polled voted for the money to be redirected to health and education. But, unless you are one of the powerful business elites, you – sadly – have very little sway with this Government. Because miners and moguls run Australia. So we taxpayers will see just our pockets looted to reduce a budget deficit of just 15% of GDP — one of the lowest of any G20 economy: The age of entitlement is over in Australia — except for the dominant fossil fuel industry and those rich enough to be able to buy political patronage. (Sean Keane I.A.) 

margaret
margaret from NSW commented:

One thing that does surprise me is the rooms in which people choose to spend their evenings and day time leisure time. The larger and sparser the room the more heating required, and the more they pay. My neighbours flat is identical to mine. her elec. bill is unbelievably enormous. Now I have my small TV in my own tiny bedroom as I do not consider the sitting room as the place for TVs. It does require running a cable some distance however it is worth it. I also have a craft desk in the room so I can earn a few dollars whilst keeping warm. The room has little space left to heat. If there is only one or two of you, even though you might want a larger TV in a lounging area, TV are so cheap and portable at this time you could save the cost of second basic TV from the savings on one winters elec bill. I can say I could have purchased two basic TVs with the DIFFERENCE between my bill and my neighbours bill, with little inconvenience. 

Someone
Someone from QLD commented:

I am wondering why the politicians in QLD r not answering the request to investigate what Beaty did with all the dividends from electricity and water, that should have been kept for capital works. Why do current rates have to provide capital works; it should come from the new users; why do we need all these middle men to earn profits; Utilities should be provided at cost by the state and not at a profit; I also support a higher feed in rate for the solar users and the comment about the increasing supply fee to compensate the lesser income due to solar installers - we should not be discouraged 

janet
janet from VIC commented:

I'm tired physically and mentally by the worry of my electricity, gas and water bills! Electricity and gas in particular. We don't turn on lights or heating until we have to. It's got to the point that my outgoings are starting to exceed my incoming income!! 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to janet:

Vote for The Greens, next time... 

John
John from NSW commented:

I feel that the daily rate of $1.31 to just "Supply" the electricity to my home should be reduced. At the moment this fee accounts for approximately 47-50% of my quarterly bill. So if I'm able to reduce my actual power usage (even to the point where I don't use any over a three month period ) it would still cost me $117.90 (ie. 90days @ $1.31) for nothing. Also, I feel that we should be getting a larger return for any electricity that we produce via our solar systems that we put back into the grid. After all we have installed the systems at our own cost and have to meet all maintenance costs ourselves Electricity Producers should be paying us the same rate for our solar power into the grid as what we pay for when we use power that they supply. 

Rodney
Rodney from NSW commented:

I have also competed the survey BUT have 2 questions; 1. If the electricity suppliers can GIVE one person 15 to 20 % discount WHY doesn't the money hungry government ( ALL ) call them all in and say, (get your act together OR their WILL be regulations back). 2. Why the government of the day cannot HELP with the installing of solar bewilders me. YES I hear you why.? Ok drop the feed in tariff and and allow people with solar already installed have their metres run in reverse thus getting at least the cost of the day during compatible weather. I believe this would go very close to being cost neutral. Rod F nsw 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Rodney:

Rodney, your second point is one I have been asking for a very long time. We pay X cents/kwh for power we use. We get paid Y cents/kwh for the power we produce. The difference between X and Y is dependant on the contract that you make with the Power Company. BUT there is a great degree of inequality of bargaining power here. You can call it anything you want, but it is simply PROFITEERING. I can't take the power that I produce and sell it on ebay. I can't store it without purchasing quite expensive batteries. I can't save it for a "rainy day". I paid a substantial amount to have the solar panels installed, thinking I was doing the right thing by the environment - and certainly the savings were a factor - but the savings are insignificant and the initial outlay not worth it. I could be getting a better return by investing elsewhere. All I want is for the Power Companies to pay me the same amount for the electricity that I am FORCED to sell to them as I pay them for the electricity that I consume e.g. at night. Simple as that!! Ask them why that can't happen and we get the same sort of rubbish rationale that we get about the price of petrol right? Anyone with an ounce of sense says "Well that doesn't work" but we just kept being told that we don't understand the international economics of the situation, and the Government, any Government of the day, with their hidden agendas, just put it in the "Treat the general public like idiots" basket and go for coffee. 

Rodney
Rodney from NSW commented:

My wife and I made the decision very early to install solar and we receive 60c. We have NOT paid a single cent in electricity bills in the 4 1/2 years thanks to the feed in tariff BUT we also have solar hot water which is very efficient. We have also received returns for the extra electricity that our solar generates. I maintain that the thieving electricity co's and over populated government utilities should be taken to task.WHY do we have to pay for a supply charge? this together with water are supposed to be ESSENTIAL services. GIVE ME A BREAK. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Rodney:

Good point Rodney. You're one of the lucky ones as 'State' rebates have been substantially reduced post the Combat/Rudd/Gillard failed solar schemes. 

Christine
Christine from NSW commented:

I have completed the Survey - good luck with reducing the high electricity costs. 

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