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Fair Go for FiftyUp Campaign: Superannuation under attack at National Reform Summit

Fair Go for FiftyUp Campaign: Superannuation under attack at National Reform Summit

It appears from the first crop of Fair Go For Fifty Ups that many of you are on a collision course with some of the pundits at this week’s National Reform Summit.

Business leaders, politicians, union representatives and journalists were present at the summit this week and declared superannuation under attack.

There was one group missing from this important discussion – actual over 50’s who have retired or are retiring soon.

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The very things many of you who have joined the campaign said you didn’t want to see such as; including the family home in the age pension eligibility test, changes to tax breaks on super and raising the pension age were all discussed.

In the first 10,000 responses to the survey these were the top three concerns and please keep the responses coming. Your voice especially on these issues is critical.

When asked their most important financial consideration 41% said it was that the family house should remain exempt from the assets test.

But at the summit the Centre For Independent Studies said it should be included because the current system disadvantaged the poorest 25% of age pensioners who didn’t own their own home.

The next highest response was 15% who wanted no change to the taxes on super. But again at the summit David Whiteley the boss of Industry Super Australia  said there was ‘by and large’ agreement for reform in the area.

Third time unlucky came the issue of the right and fair age for pension eligibility. 11% of you wanted it to stay at 65 and not later.

John Brogden,  CEO of the Australian Institute of Company Directors said there should be consideration of pushing even above the proposed gradual increase to 67 as people are living longer.

Whether you like it not there’s likely to be a review of retirement incomes and a clear set of objectives resolved for the complex and costly system.

So again it makes sense to those who make the decisions know where you stand. Go to the website and fill in the survey. We will compile and take your voice to the politicians in Canberra who ultimately decide.

And here’s a sample of some of the comments you have left. Go and check out more for yourself at Fiftyupclub.com

‘We spend too much money policing a complex taxation system. Reform and simplify it and reduce the cost of management and enforcement.’ Phillip, QLD

 ‘Changing the rules regarding pensions AFTER a person has retired is not fair.’ Rob, VIC

 ‘Governments need to look for positive ways to help those who demonstrate that they want to provide for their retirement at a reasonable living standard, regardless of existing income or assets, rather than think of ways to screw back their entitlements to reduce expenditure.’ Terry QLD.

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Someone
Someone from VIC commented:

Being on a very modest defined benefit pension in addition to a part pension and having contributed 50 percent of that pension after tax am very disturbed that my government pension will be very much less as of 1 January 2016. It seems unfair to be penalised for saving for retirement. 

stephen
stephen from NSW commented:

Our Prime minister described himself as the CEO of the country and I view myself as a share holder who has paid for his shares with tax money for many years and have earned the right to have the family home not included in the pension eligibility test and to have tax breaks on super and definitely not have the pension age raised. 

simon
simon from QLD commented:

How smart are we ?????????????????????????????? 

Karen
Karen from NSW commented:

Successive governments have been on about us preparing for our own retirement instead of being totally government funded. Yet when the crunch comes, all of us who have put aside into super funds over the years to take the burden off the government we are sacrificed when it comes to managing economies which have been grossly mismanaged by governments as a whole. Those who have done nothing to help themselves towards retirement, continue to put their hands out while we are sacrificed. Super funds and their financial advisers couldn't care less about retirees (only about the enormous pooled funds that we generate for them to make their healthy profits and commissions) because they continue to take their share of our pooled funds even when they make poor or lack lustre investment decisions. I am also annoyed by the fact that the 'funds' and their advisers always use that catch cry that it is "long term" when trying to defend their inept, incompetent decisions that result in our superannuation funds being lost and then using overburdening statistical data to somehow justify their worth to us. 

Josef
Josef from NSW commented:

we pay taxes all our working life and try to provide for our retirement it is not right to put the family home as another way to tax the aged.i am 78 and still working 20 hours a week.cut back on some of the politicans perks,specially the ones who have retired they should be no different to every one else. 

Robert
Robert from NSW commented:

sorry Warren, every little bit counts whether you like it or not. This is our money which is being spent on things that are of little significance. Labor stuffed this country of "OUR'S" completely and by the looks of it are still willing to give them another go. What sort of evaluation is that? sensible? or plain down right STUPID?. Sure let's get the debt under control. Unfortunately we have a stupid system whereby you have the lousy senate deciding what will be passed and what will not be passed. It is a hostile senate and yet they, the senate have no solution. In response, sure it is a small debt / expenditure but it does HELP. Enjoy the day. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Robert:

No need to be sorry Robert as I basically agree with the thrust of your argument. The Industry Super Funds that are owned and run by the ACTU/Unions Officials are in need of a greater scrutiny by the current Royal Commission on Union Corruption and Governance. A couple of examples in the press recently; LUCRF Industry Fund Directors contributing directly to Bill Shorten’s election funding in 2013, and $1.8 Billion of our funds paid to ‘slush funds’ controlled by the ACTU/Unions. These are the rorts we need to investigate. 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to Warren:

There should be a complete investigation of the entire system. Nothing to hold back on. I also feel very, very strongly that unions under the ACTU headline should be TAXED and should be under the same guidance of companies evaluations. This is a maginificent cover up by the unions that should be exposed. Why should the unions get away from being taxed? they support the Labor party - fair enough and just like any other company or institution all should be looked at. There are union members who are not Labor supporters - why should they keep contributing to a political party when the member has no affiliation or does not support that party. Why is the senate NOT supporting a move by this government? To get things moving in our country we should get rid of this hoplessly incompetent senate. There are heaps of other rorts that keeps escaping the scrutiny of those who seem to think they have covered every aspect of corruption and rorts - I wonder why? furthermore, Unions should not run any Super funds - period. Considering everything, we as a small country population wise are run by the biggest elected governmental institutions including Politicians. Why! why is the population not concerned with this rort also? Cut the number of politicians in parliament, cut the number of bureaucrats, cut the entitlements completely and make them accountable for everything and if unable to, FINE them just like they FINE the public when breaking the law. This is not a witch hunt and an unrealistic expectation but a reality check on what the population of "OUR" country wants or expects. I like your passion and comments Warren - good on you. 

Meredith
Meredith from NSW commented:

I am more than happy to work for another 20 years. I have a PhD among other degrees. I also have more than 23 years of experience in NSW Health. My job was made redundant...a long unfair story. I have difficulty finding a job, as I don't know high up people who can give me a job. I learnt the hard way that Australia is the land of opportunities if you know the right people. In any case, give us jobs, if you want us to work longer! 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

Most believe their SG accumulations (9.5%) will provide them a good retirement pension but this just a cruel myth perpetrated by ACTU/Unions. 4/5ths of this group will have a reliance on Age Pensions in the short to longer term irrespective of Super savings. Australians should utilize their own resources first, property, investments, private contributions to super plans, and even their own family home assets to provide quality living in retirement. The Government Age/Disability Pension is just a basic safety net for those who through life circumstances have not the wherewithal to live by their own means. Why would anyone rely on Government benefits if they could avoid it? I would rather have the 9.5% SG payments paid direct to me as income now as I need to pay my bills today and not in 20 years’ time. 

Evan
Evan from QLD commented:

When is the govt going to at least lower the minimum draw down rate for super seeing interest rates are at an all time low and our capital is being eroded dramatically. My age group: 5% is the minimum rate currently. And best interest rates are less than 3%. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Evan:

Governments are not the 'insurer' for market fluctuations - quite a simple fact. 

Raymond
Raymond from NSW commented:

Please, please, Politicians and MPs you are suppose to represent us. Before you pass new laws and fix new rules, thinks carefully and intelligently how these affect us. Many of us squeeze our budget like hell to make ends meet while all your claims are government paid. 

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