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Treasurer has his eye on older Australians

Treasurer has his eye on older Australians

Older Australians are wary of the new Federal Treasurer’s talk of tax reform, research by the 130,000-member FiftyUp Club reveals.

Treasurer, Scott Morrison MP, has set himself the task of convincing ordinary Australians that we need tax reform. 

The Treasurer is particularly focused on older Australians and unlocking their capital to increase retirement incomes.

Take part in the poll and tell us if you think retirees have the option to sell the family home and downsize without affecting their pension?

A recent survey of almost 18,000 older Australians provides insight into the very demographic the Treasurer is appealing to. The study of the over 50s has found;

  • almost half (45%) think tax concessions for people with large super balances should be wound back, however 34% disagree with this and another 1 in 5 don’t know;
  • the low interest environment has been a disaster for half of older Australians getting lower interest on their savings;
  • they are not convinced that a change to the GST is necessary (46% do not support any change, while 46% would support an increase in rate/and or broadening of the base).

The FiftyUp Club nation-wide study into cost of living pressures highlights why the budget needs to be carefully balanced with a particular focus on the ageing population.

One of the billion-dollar questions for the government is how Australia is going to support the growing numbers of retirees. The survey found;

  • 2 out of 3 Australians have or will retire on $300,000 or less because superannuation was not compulsory in their day.
  • 75% of older Australians, are, or will be, dependant on the full or part-time pension

“The challenge for government is about getting the balance right between supporting the older Australians and ensuring retirement incomes policies are sustainable,” FiftyUp Club spokesperson Christopher Zinn said.

It’s important politicians start to understand the pressure older Australians face. The study found 85% said these issues were either important or very important to their vote at the next election, and that could be any time soon.

We'd love to read your comments about how you feel about proposed changes.

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grisha
grisha from NSW commented:

I'm still working full time at 70 years of age because of workplace skills and an accommodating boss, but will need full pension assistance when I retire. This will only be for ill health reasons or retrenchment.as I have limited savings and have drawn down superannuation when necessary to keep my head afloat. There is still a place for me in the workforce and I continue to work because I love my job and I am good at it. My continuing achievements outperform those of participants in my industry much younger and this spurs me on. However I am not fooled for a moment into thinking that I am not easily replaceable but I try not to dwell on such negative thoughts. My healthy philosophy is that every day you wake up and the birds are singing, and the sun is shining, you are going to have a good day. I have paid a lot of tax which has supported many less fortunate than me and perhaps the occasional infrastructure improvements over my working period of about 50 years, and now it's Government pay back time for my long and loyal service and financial Government support.. Would anyone out there disagree?. 

Rhonda
Rhonda from NSW commented:

With TTT (Turnbull The Terrible) in the hot seat and being filthy rich, we olds have little in the way of hope for a deal from the fed government. Perhaps worse if ALP is in charge. Rhonda 

James
James from NSW commented:

The main reason we have for not downsizing is the enormous cost of "bond" in the aged care system. In our area, places that you might like to spend your last days cost $500,000 or more per person. If both of us are still here at 85 years, the only way we can afford the entry will be to sell our existing home or one of similar market value. If we downsized now and put money in the bank, our part pension would reduce and when the time comes, we will not be able to raise the funds for the bond. The government needs to address the AGED CARE BOND before asking retirees to make further sacrifices. 

Diane
Diane from NSW commented:

Read an interesting article the other day about the European welfare state. The statement most interesting was, 'Unfortunately, it is often overlooked that government can bribe the people only with their own money. In the words of the great French economist Frederic Bastiast: "Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavours to live at the expense of everybody else." (from, Europe on the road to nowhere - The Australian Aug 28-29, 2015). The problem is, we all know that changes have to be made, but no-one wants to be the source/subject of those changes. In these times, when many more are living at the expense of fewer taxpayers, when taxes are increasing, and I mean the taxes from the toil of others, those people who do have a capacity to pay something toward their own support should pay rather than continuing to rely on taxpayers. Freeing up funds from the sale of the family home is a possible answer. Whereas superannuation is the forcible transfer of forgone wages for years/decades into the funding of the individual's retirement. Superannuation should not, therefore, be used by government to "top-up" the support of others in the name of equity through making changes to policies, taxes, levies etc. If it is to be used in this way, then its another con that spendthrift politicians and governments turn to, to satisfy today's welfare recipients. I also recently read that to fund the equivalent of the full age pension would require a superannuation balance of $1 million. Most taxpayers will never accumulate anywhere near that level of personal funding yet public debate among policy wonks continues to bang on about slugging superannuation members. So those people receiving a pension should remember that if personal/superannuation taxes continue to rise a disincentive not to work any extra also rises. And for those receiving the taxes of others, you should feel somewhat privileged that others are out there working for your benefit. Di 

tony
tony from VIC commented:

I would suggest a value limit of about one million dollars on the family home. This would discourage people from pouring their savings into bigger houses in order to claim maximum pension. 

Kerrie
Kerrie from NSW replied to tony:

Agree home is most inequitable part of the whole pension scheme and the sooner it's included in the assets test the better. 

ROLF
ROLF commented:

GET THE TREASURER TO LOOK AT THE BANKS HOW THEY ARE STEALING PENSIONERS SAVINGS BY GIVING VERY LOW INTEREST RATES LIKE STEPED INTERSET RATES,FROM .02% TO 1.5% AND THEN BRAGING,THE PROFITS THEY MAKE UP TO $9 BILLION PER ANUM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALSO THE BANKS ALL HAVE THE SAME RATES AND CONDITIONS THER IS NO DIFFERENC BETWEEN BANKS. I THINK THEY ARE RUNNING LIKE A CARTELL. 

Gertraud
Gertraud from ACT replied to ROLF:

So the obvious answer to this is to become an owner of the bank instead of just a customer! I have never understood why people keep their money in cash, be that term investments or similar. Why not take that inactive money and become an "owner" of the bank by investing in the bank's shares? Case in point, CBA closed at $71.40 yesterday and has paid $4.20 in cash dividends for the past 12 months which, when grossed up by the franking credits becomes $6.00. This gives a return of 8.4%! 

Kevin
Kevin from NSW commented:

We are retired after a full working life, raised and educated 6 children, never bludged on the system but now seem to be a target from politicians who show few or no loyalties. I think a person should not have the pension or dole unless they have worked and contributed for a prescribed number of years 

enid
enid from NSW commented:

I have no idea what should be or what shouldn't be done 

enid
enid from NSW commented:

we should not have tro sell our homes for the sake of having taxe lowered, I dint know what impact it would have, So I don't know the answer to the ? 

Mark
Mark from NSW commented:

Bill Shorten on Q&A this week suggested that retirees with $2-3M in super earning $135000 or $150000 should be taxed. What might he get when he retires, and how much tax will he pay? Taxing assets and the derivative income of retirees who have already paid tax to achieve those assets is not the answer. Less expenditure and no more handouts to undeserving recipients are two solutions. But will this government or any other have the courage? Nup. 

Gabrielle
Gabrielle from NSW replied to Mark:

I believe the Greens will. Vote Greens, lets face it we've had everything else so what do we have to lose? 

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