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To downsize, or not to downsize?

To downsize, or not to downsize?

Are those of us aged over 50 really hogging all the detached houses in suburbs close to the amenities of the CBD, at the direct expense of younger families who can’t find homes to  buy?

There’s been a fierce blame game all week after the Australian Population Research Institute claimed "empty nesters" are forcing kids to grow up without backyards by refusing to downsize and move out.

As an issue it has everything; intergenerational warfare (with baby boomers somehow at fault), the inflated and unaffordable property market, and a big slab of presumed guilt for not moving on.

Sure, the census shows up to 60% of those desirable freestanding homes in Sydney’s and Melbourne’s inner and middle suburbs are occupied by those aged over 50. And why not?

 They have grown older there and are part of the community. It’s close to health facilities and as Australian Seniors’ Michael O’Neill rightly pointed out, these were often much more humble areas in the past.

In addition the recent changes to pension eligibility outlined in the last Budget mean that if you downsize and liberate the capital from the family home, you stand to lose some or all of the pension.

Should over-50s downsize from the family home so younger families can have more space, as media reports suggested this week?

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The data suggests almost all of those lucky enough to be living in such places will stay there until they are at least 75 - and even then, they will usually choose to buy another freestanding home.

The boffins behind the report say there’s a shortfall of tens of thousands of detached houses and it will get worse over time.

 So what’s to be done, and who ends up paying given that the planners or the market seem to have got it so wrong?

Inevitably there have been controversial suggestions that the family home should be included in the pension’s assets test to encourage downsizing.

Another bright idea, which arguably would hit also hit older Australians harder, would be to replace the stamp duty on sales with an annual property tax levied for just living in your home.

None of the pundits seem to mention how many grandparents in some of these homes and gardens provide childcare for 837,000 kids a week at some cost to themselves (see our October 1 blog on this issue).

Inevitably there’s no easy answer but the first response should not be to sheet home the blame and the cost for so-called reforms to those who have done nothing else but buy and love their homes.

As you’ll see from some member comments below, you seem to feel much the same. Also do answer our snap poll on the issue - ">Should over-50s downsize from the family home so younger families can have more space, as media reports suggested this week?"

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stuart
stuart from NSW commented:

Stuart from NSW Commented. I have worked hard all my life, I am 66yrs old, not ready to downsize yet, besides we still have our youngest child living at home, 19 yrs old. Stop selling to foreign investors and we might have enough homes for young families. We will downsize when we feel the need to. Thanks Stuart. 

David
David from NSW commented:

All these seniors that have worked hard all their lives , given up this , given up that , just to purchase a house , they now refuse to downsize because it wont suit their lifestyle , get of your backside move and enjoy another life , your find your new life , join new clubs make new friends , but don't forget your old ones . I heard of winging poms , but on this matter Australians take the cake . Like I say help the NEEDY stop being GREEDY . 

Ivan
Ivan from QLD replied to David:

David your comments are rather confusing. Are you telling seniors to get off their backsides and move and enjoy another life. Maybe they have finally got their homes how they like them and are not interested in moving, are they "greedy" because of this? And are the "needy" you refer to the young trendies who want to live close to the city? I suggest if they want a back yard for their kids to play in they buy a house in the sticks like we did. 

john
john from QLD commented:

worth it to remember that often it will be the children of the boomers that will more benefit more financially if the family home is kept !! 

Jennifer
Jennifer from QLD commented:

David, worked since I was 14, started full time work at 17, and never had a handout from the Gov't. Greedy and needy younger people need to do without and save, work hard and stop wanting everything for nothing. 

Barbara
Barbara from QLD commented:

Again the over 50's are being hit. If not their money, now its their housing. The government doesn't have enough infrastructure to even persuade the older generation to move even if they chose to. Want to do something to fix the economy, then get your bloody hand out of the biscuit barrel. 

Someone
Someone from QLD commented:

Greedy developers are partly to blame, building mcmansions on average blocks so you can lean out the window and touch the fence, the theory presumably being that young people are too busy to have a garden. Next come estate agents who get an obscene fee for sitting on their bums and charging the seller for the advertising. Sorry, I have drifted off, but it would be interesting to know if the Australian Population Research Institute is government funded and impartial, or are they funded by land developers. And how did they come to this conclusion? 

Ivan
Ivan from QLD commented:

This was not meant to be Anonymous, must have forgot to log in! 

Sue
Sue from NSW commented:

I have lived here for nearly 33 years. Raised my children and my daughter and her husband and my two grandchildren live here. A third grandchild is soon to be on the way. You can't say the house and yard are not being put to good use!! Where would I go, and for that matter, where would we all go?? Politicians....shame on you!! Would you treat your mother this way? Give up your lurks and perks!! Get real! 

deborah
deborah from VIC commented:

Downsize and still have thousands to pay in stamp duty. leave all your friends, neighbours and community. away from the family that wants your home. go miles from support services and no public transport when we are told we are too old to drive. my house was a dump, considered outlying but now sought after- mainly by developers 

Susan
Susan from NSW commented:

I am sick of being blamed for Australaia woes because I am a member of the aging population. I worked hard all my life and went without to afford my home. Why should I move because the younger generation feel entitled to a house with a garden. If I sell my home where do I go? I won't get enough to buy into a retirement home so what other option do I have? Perhaps if we stopped the foreign investors from buying up so many properties at inflated prices it might give young couples a chance to buy. Also, have they ever heard of buying a smaller affordable property and then building up from there? 

David
David from NSW commented:

Older people today most living in the past are GREEDY , and would not think twice about helping the young who are the NEEDY . As the world has changed most have not changed with it like I say they live in the past [that's water under the bridge ] you cant get it back . 40 years ago you could purchase a house between $20.000 to $50.000 and 5 years wages could pay for it .But today houses $400.000 to 1.000.000 you would be lucky to cover it with 16 years wages . So wake up the GREEDY and help the NEEDY , and stop making excuses why you cant downsize . 

deborah
deborah from VIC replied to David:

who is the greedy one? i worked hard for my home. it was not my chosen area as i could not afford where i wanted so i had go further out. you can buy for less years to pay down your mortgage today if you go further out 

SUE
SUE from NSW replied to David:

How old are you, David? I just want to see which side of the fence you are on. 

Allan
Allan from QLD replied to David:

David, it would be interesting to establish what generation you belong to. It appears you have not done your homework. Houses may have been cheaper 40 years ago, but have you taken into account that salaries were not exactly high. Bills still needed to be paid, including the mortgage, and food and clothing purchased. And yet the current 'needy' can afford to buy the latest expensive mobile phones and technology. Maybe, by setting aside these must have items, then owning a home maybe a reality. Am I greedy, far from it, I worked hard for my home. Take your wrath out on greedy developers and loan lenders and dont forget that the cost of water, electricity and rates make paying off a mortgage more difficult. 

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