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"IT'S A DIRTY GAME"

Kate Cowling reports in the SMH this week that, for many who made the switch to solar, the financial incentives were as much of a hook as the environmental feel-good factor. But now those generous feed in tariffs for putting energy back into the grid are far less generous than they were and in some cases, non-existent. It raises questions about whether solar still makes financial sense. 

When Kevin O'Toole, a Sydney resident, recently installed solar panels, he was told the provider he chose would "pay the government-legislated feed-in tariff amount". What he didn't realise until he got his first bill, was that the NSW rate is 0.00. "They never mentioned then that their feed-in tariff was zero," he says. "It's a very dirty game, with weird pricing structures."

Kevin has since switched to another provider, which pays a feed-in tariff above baseline, and says he's confident solar is still worthwhile due to cheaper system costs and energy savings, but says you have to shop around.

In NSW, feed-in tariffs have dropped from around 60c per kilowatt hour to 5-8c a kilowatt hour. The highest you can get in Australia now is about 10c per kilowatt.The reason is the government-mandated incentives have expired or are close to expiry (NSW officially ends this year), which means feed-in tariffs are at the discretion of the retailer. 

While feed-in tariffs are falling, so is the cost of solar power systems. For a small, 1.5-kilowatt system connected to the grid, you're looking at between $2000 and $5000, while a 5-kilowatt system now retails for around $10,000. Just a few years ago, it wasn't unheard of to be paying $20,000.  


 

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peter
peter from NSW commented:

I am quite satisfied with a return of 20 cents per kw. and with a 23% + discount from my energy provider, it goes some way to pay off the capital outlay.But when it is considered that peak price is in excess of 50cents a kw the offer of 6 cents is highway robbery. I initially installed my solar because of the likely hood of power disruption ( which we were informed of ) during peak use on hot days and the suppliers not being to supply because of overload to the system.. I suggest that on hot summer days that we turn off our grid feed in for the period between 2-6 pm (on average it will cost us around 60 cents (6 cents a kw) but will create a dramatic problem to the suppliers and then they may reconsider there offer. for feed in at around the 20 cent . Peter Addison Electrical contractor. 

Keith
Keith from QLD commented:

In Queensland the highest feed-in tariff is 44 cents. I had solar installed and connected to the grid in 2009, the agreement with Ergon Energy which expires in 2028 pays 44 cents for every kWh fed into the electricity network. 

Peter
Peter from NSW replied to Keith:

That's a long time for an agreed feed in tariff. 

Gisela
Gisela from NSW commented:

I would like to know how much is Click Energy,s offer from Januar next year? 

Peter
Peter from NSW replied to Gisela:

That's a good question. 

John
John from NSW commented:

I installed a 3kwt system and a year later installed an additional 2kwt with a 6.4kwt storage battery. My next two quarters cost me $2.68 and $10.60. I have never received the incentive rates for feed in tariff but I do get $0.10c feed in tariff from Click Energy. I have now expanded my storage system to 12.8kwt and provided I get enough sun, don't pay for power at all. The full set up cost $30,000 but I consider it money well spent as I don't have to worry about turning on the air conditioner to keep warm. 

Brian
Brian from QLD commented:

In places like Mackay in Queensland there is only one supplier. Ergon Energy got so greedy that they had a cap put on them by the government. Solar Power is a joke if you missed out on the original 40+ cents incentive. Wit no competition we are trapped. 

Kristine
Kristine from NSW commented:

So it sounds as though the Tesla Powerwall is the way to go. Convert your own collected solar power into a storage unit that can be used in the home, and not rely on the power companies, other than to top up when you don't get enough from the solar panels........just need to be patient and wait for the Powerwall to come down a bit in price, which is said to be in another 3-4 years they will be at least half their current cost...... Kris 

Stephen
Stephen from VIC commented:

The people with solar installed must rise up as one and demand fairer feed in tariffs. Power companies are on selling solar feed back as green energy at a premium. They gain both ways at our expense. 

Peter
Peter from NSW replied to Stephen:

That is so true, however the Government of the day wont backup the small scale producers and stand against the large retailers, so we get trodden on. 

sheridan
sheridan from NSW commented:

When my .60c NSW feed in tariff finishes in December this year, I will have my meter changed so that instead of feeding my solar generated electricity to the grid, I will be able to use it myself (net feed instead of gross fee I think the term is). Of course, this means after sundown I will be paying for my electricity but when the sun is shining I'll be using my own. However, because I'm retired and able to be at home often during the day, I will use most of my electricity during the day for free and only use what I have to during the night when the sun has gone for the day. 

Peter
Peter from NSW replied to sheridan:

I am in a similar situation as I have net feed in, but I only receive the 10cents per kilowatt from Click Energy, as I received no incentive from the Government. At night, or in poor daylight conditions like today, I have to purchase electricity at approximately 30cents per kilowatt. 

John
John from VIC commented:

Some of us in Victoria are still on the 60 cents feed-in-tarriff (plus whatever the retailer adds on top) for another 10 years "guaranteed". My only concern is what faith can we place on the Government's "guarantee". Keep in mind I paid $18k for my 5kwh solar system 3 years ago. 

Jim
Jim from NSW commented:

To Kevin o,Toole please let me no your grid supplier I'm on 6cents 

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