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Should Over-65’s Pay More Tax?

Should Over-65’s Pay More Tax?

Perhaps we’ve been saying it too loud and for too long that over 50s are the healthiest and wealthiest their generation has ever been. In aggregate the statistics plainly show in terms of longevity and asset appreciation this age cohort have generally had it pretty sweet compared to their forebears.

BUT individually of course circumstances vary widely and frankly some older sick and broke Australians must grimace when they’re told they’ve never had it so good.

But policy and perceptions are grounded in such generalisations and we’re seeing what might be the start of an unparalleled pushback against concessions to this group. In short the narrative may well be it’s time for older

Australians to start giving back. It might begin with some little known and lower value tax breaks for the over-65s but it could well end with the family home being included in the pension assets test. The sacred family home change might be politically difficult but it’s also very tempting with the

Productivity Commission saying it would be worth $6 billion a year to the budget. This week The Grattan Institute, which earlier this year pushed for dramatic changes to superannuation, claimed older Australians paid $1 billion less tax a year than their younger counterparts.

Their report said overly generous tax breaks with no sensible policy basis, which apply only to over 65s, mean 500,000 Australians get an unfair advantage.

Perhaps few of these half million beneficiaries appreciate how the Senior’s and Pensioners Tax Offset (SAPTO), a higher Medicare levy income threshold, and higher private health insurance rebates benefit them at all.

But they will undoubtedly do so if one day someone comes to take it away as seems more likely with many of the ‘benefits’ this group is said to enjoy. The proponents of removing these inconsistencies in the tax system, as they like to frame them, claim it’s really no big thing.

But a few beg to differ. About the only official voice which has questioned the wisdom of the Grattan plan came with warnings it could cause a voter backlash.

The Council Of The Ageing chief executive Ian Yates warns that the group who would be affected were not living in luxury and losing perhaps $2000 a year would have a significant impact on their lives and budgets.

It’s a start of an argument but The Grattan Institute have been far more adept at getting their message out that’s it’s time to end the lurks and perks

enjoyed by older Australians.

In the past FiftyUp members have indicated in surveys they are willing to help out when it comes to fixing the Budget or addressing housing affordability issues

Again in terms of equity and public policy there may be good reasons to dial back the benefits enjoyed just by one group but it shouldn’t happen without a

reasonable debate from all sides and that’s fair.

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Max
Max from NSW commented:

Max from Leichhardt NSW If over 65s must pay more tax Politicians should be paid only their superannuation and the same pension as hard working tetirees.Rules should apply to Piticians as it does for retirees. Secondly benefits to ex Prime Ministers should be banished as they are wealthy enough to stop Spunging on the Taxpayers. 

Someone
Someone from QLD commented:

I concur with Martin. I heard that all politicians regardless of time in office get $200,000.00 per year as long as they live. If that were say halved bet that would solve the so called 'deficit' problems. 

Garry
Garry from NSW commented:

Why not have a look at "Middle Class' welfare. People receiving Child Care Rebates whilst on above average salaries. Then there the 47% of Taxpayers that receive more than they pay in Tax in Government Benefits so they pay no net Tax. There are enormous inequities across the board. 

martin
martin from QLD commented:

What would be the savings if POLITICIANS and their ilk were forced to be on an equal footing with Pensioners with respect to their superannuation and perquisites? What savings if -when a politician leaves that overpaid job- he/she would be entitled to NOTHING more than the average person? Especially those that leave high office? Hmmm? 

Claire
Claire from NSW commented:

I do believe there needs to be some adjustments to superannuation! BUT I think this has been TOO generic!! My husband is 75 and has been self employed ALL his working life. I am 64 and I returned to the work force in 2002 as an RN working PT, so I have only had 14 years to get some super accumulated. My husband did not have any super. We invested in real estate to give ourselves an income in retirement and would NOT have been illegible for the pension. However, the investments failed and we had to sell everything including our family home to get out of debt. Now we rent from our daughter and I will be continuing to work part time till I am 70 while I also care for my husband after his stroke. I have been trying to salary sacrifice! But now I can't transition to retirement and save tax to accelerate my super growth.... I am trying to assist with supporting my husband and I as we row older. THANK heavens for my daughter and son-in-law letting us rent (very low) and my other daughter's help as well..... I don't know where we would be??????? 

Someone
Someone from WA commented:

The young need to think long and hard on what they propose for Seniors because one day w'll be gone and they'll be the seniors living with the rules they impose now. 

Lynne
Lynne from VIC commented:

Well the over 65's might stop working, spend all their Super and go on the Old Age Pension. 

Claire Angela
Claire Angela from WA commented:

I think the younger generation forget that most over 65's have worked and paid taxes, my husband and I have both worked two jobs to support our family and to be self funded in our retirement, we did without in our early years, we had no phone or tv only one car, no luxuries like holidays or dining out, as we couldn't afford them, even icecream we only had at Christmas. I did my washing in a bath, washing machine was a luxury. Where in comparison to the younger generation cannot do without their mobile phones etc and want everything now, and expect to be handed everything on a platter, instead of gradually working towards acquiring them. So why should we be paying more tax? We have been paying for over fifty years so deserve to have a few tax breaks. 

John
John from QLD commented:

Stop ALL the politician & Senior public servant,s outlandish lurks & perks. Also make the dole bludgers ( Not genuine hard up cases) work or lose their benefits. You might find then that Self funded retirees who in the main over their working lives paid a lot of income tax would be prepared to lose some of the tax breaks which they have earned far more so than the politicians & senior public servants 

Eric
Eric from NSW commented:

Typical of what we can expect from these characters who have never had to live on the age pension. I think we get everything free - but not so. What about reducing these agencies salaries and look at the politicians lurks and perks first. But that is holy ground and they have the power. Hit the little man - its easier! 

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