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A few things you should know about the Medibank Sale (ending tomorrow)

A few things you should know about the Medibank Sale (ending tomorrow)

965752-cdd5bc8c-46b4-11e4-b47a-41c1793173a7Hello Fellow FiftyUp Club Members,

This week sees the close of the Medibank Private float (Friday November 14).

Far be it from us here at FiftyUp Club to tell you whether it’s a good deal or not … as the saying goes, “please consult your financial adviser” and read articles such as this one.

But we have looked at some of the key facts, because we do care about the increasing price of premiums, and we’d be very concerned if the privatization leads to that.

Let’s have a look at some of the indisputable facts:

You will need $2000 to participate.

The price of each share is to be capped at $2.

The shares are not government guaranteed, so their value may fluctuate depending on how the business may perform.

Once it floats, Medibank’s market capitalization will be as much as $5.5 billion, which puts it among the 70 biggest companies on the ASX.

Unlike policy holders of NIB and the NRMA when they were floated, Medibank customers will not be gifted any shares. This has been a source of some frustration and even legal threats by some Medibank customers.

Medibank is the largest private insurer with 29.1%  of market share. Revenue growth among the private insurer has been strong over the past 10 years at around 8.4% a year.

Claims have grown at about 8.3% in that time, which has kept a lid on earnings.

But a survey we at FiftyUp Club conducted earlier this year showed FiftyUps pay around 3 to 4% more than the national average increase of 6.2% on their policies each year.

So, will our premiums go up even further as a result of the sale?

The Federal Government says no because for the past ten years it has already been run as a commercial organization making returns and setting premiums at about the same rates.

According to Finance Minister Mathias Cormann, “Competition will put a natural limit on Medibank Private’s capacity to lift premiums beyond what is competitive”.

The AMA says premiums would go up because there’d be a demand on greater levels of returns and cost-cutting which would put pressure on premiums to rise.

According to AMA President Dr Steve Hambleton, “Government owning Medibank Private has kept costs down, we wonder whether it will actually decrease the amount of pressure on private health insurers to keep their prices down”.

The other possibility, of course, is that cost-cutting could lower the level of service for Medibank policyholders, as some have warned.

Of course, it’s impossible to predict what will really happen. But there is a school of thought that if you’re concerned about premiums going up, then buy into the company and get a share of the profit to offset your losses.

With a dividend of 3.5% a year, a return of 5% after the 30% tax credit for franking, as long as it holds its price that’s a better return than a term deposit.

If I’ve given you a headache with all of these facts and figures then at least you should wait until the aspirin kicks in!

Cheers,

John and the FiftyUp Club Team

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Emil
Emil commented:

Mandate shmandate ,we never vote a government in we only vote an incompetent one out. Why would we have to suffer a labour gov just because the liberals have a hairbrained scheme . It seems that its always the lesser of two evils but they should not take that as an imprimatur to do what they like.Its not like we have any choice. 

Dorothy
Dorothy from NSW commented:

No thanks 

Bruno (Brian)
Bruno (Brian) from NSW commented:

Thank you for your great information, I have perused the Prospectus I was sent, obviously it was praising Medibank Private purchase of shares. I was two minds about buying into it so I spoke to my broker, he had already applied to purchase them so I took his advice and I also sent money and applied even though I am disappointed that the shares will not be gifted. Bruno from Sydney 

Betty
Betty from NSW commented:

I have written 4 letters to John Mangos, one address given me by 2GB, then to FiftyUp Club, then to 2GB, some of these in A4 envelopes with copies of letters. 

debra
debra from VIC commented:

Thanks for information deb 

James
James from QLD commented:

The gov. has no right to sell public companies.A referendum should be held for people to agree on the sale and as it was my, my fathers, my grandfathers and so on Taxes that made these companies as tax payers we all are a share holder of these companies. The gov. have proven they can not run shit, look at the cost of the G20, next thing they will be telling us they are broke, they treat the people like fools, maby we deserve it. 

warren
warren from NSW replied to James:

James, the Libs went to the last 2 or 3 elections with a policy to sell Medibank - that's was a mandate/referendum! 

Wanda
Wanda from NSW commented:

I am totally confused and it is hard to make a final decision. Only have the last 24 hours to rethink and take action. Hope I can have a crystal ball right now. 

Dan
Dan from NSW commented:

The demand for medibank shares is enormous , thus i think the shares will be priced at $2 a share. With a price earning of 21, it is to expensive for me to purchase, plus the dividend won't be paid untilseptember 2015. Value for medibank is around $1.60 to $ 1.80. For people purchasing at $2 , i can only wish you good luck. For the government at $2 /per share they will have got a good price for the tax payer.The government should not be in the business of running a health fund, or any other business, they are miserable at running the economy , just look at the $300 billion debt we owe foreigners that will have to be paid back by us or our grandkids. 

Joe
Joe from NSW commented:

After nearly 30 years of being loyal Medibank member, my wife and I are disgusted and disappointed that shares will not be gifted. We will be seeking health insurance elsewhere. Shame on the Federal government 

warren
warren from NSW replied to Joe:

The government owned it not the members. Quite simple. 

Joe
Joe from NSW replied to warren:

Thanks for your feedback - Warren from NSW. I was just pointing out our disappointment. As you have clarified for me Medibank is government owned: Why wouldn't the government reward loyalty. Quite simple. 

warren
warren from NSW replied to Joe:

Not a problem Joe. I was a member of a few true ‘Mutuals’ as distinct from Government owned institutions, AMP and BUPA (was Mutual Health/MBF) for some 40 - 50 years and received share allocations/payouts appropriately. BTW Governments do reward loyalty. Welfare benefits, Medicare - Health/Hospitals, Education, Age Pensions, NDIS, NBN, Child Support, Carers, Housing, and Transport etc. Australia is a wonderful country! 

Allan
Allan from NSW commented:

I find it difficult to understand if the Government has the right to sell Medibank, as I believe this organisation is owned by the members and not the government so what give the government the right to sell. Similarly the Commonwealth Bank, Telstra which were both owned by the taxpayer. All confusing? Allan B NSW 

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