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Politicians are both out-of-touch and spend too much of our money on entitlements

Politicians are both out-of-touch and spend too much of our money on entitlements

It’s become the angry corner of the Fair Go For the FiftyUps campaign with many respondents spitting chips at what they see as the ultimate hypocrisy and unfair go.

The target of their contempt isn’t power companies or banks but politicians they feel are riding the high hog in Canberra while passing judgement over their financial futures.

Every day brings more fuel to the fire with stories of excessive overseas business class travel, charter flights and office and entertaining ‘expenses’.

One NSW Liberal MP John Sidoti is seeking to reinstate an even more generous super parliamentary scheme. The existing one already costs $25 million a year.

One campaign member John spoke for many Politicians need to give some leadership and lead by example...no special rules for politicians on cost of living issues like superannuation rules.’

At the very same time we hear more policy wonks suggesting the family home should be included in the pension assets tests, more calls for a review of retirement incomes and superannuation tax breaks

We asked you, and so far more than 12,000 have been good enough to answer, a series of questions about what cost of living pressures hurt most and why.

There’s still another two weeks to go so if you haven’t please take a few minutes to add your voice to the many valuable contributions which we shall proudly deliver to Canberra.

The preliminary results suggest some pollies have some explaining to do if they claim to represent your best interests as opposed to their own or that of their party.

When asked do you think politicians understand cost of living pressures felt by the over-50s 90% answered a big ‘NO, they are out of touch’.

The next largest response was from 8% who reckoned ‘Yes but there’s not much they can do about it’.

When asked which single policy was the most important to your financial situation a resounding 44% went for the family home remaining exempt from the pension assets test.

The next largest sector was the 17% who nominated no changes to the taxation of superannuation. And as we’ve seen both policies are seriously being questioned by those with the resolve to keep pushing for change.

The simple message from you so far: the politicians making important decisions about all of our lives are both out-of-touch and spend too much of our money to entitlements such as travel.

 Judging by her post if Glenda from NSW was to join us in Canberra, and we hope some campaign members can, she’d let fly with both barrels;  ‘I hope Fair Go for the FiftyUp Campaign will fight on the grounds that a rule for one is a rule for all that includes politicians also. What makes them think that they are a cut above the rest - that they can take from us the retirees, and not apply the same ruling to themselves?’

It’s a simple question from which it’s hard to get a straight answer. Why should older Australians be asked to tighten their belts when it appears far too often those making the decision need to loosen theirs?

Check out these comments from your peers in the Fifty Up Club and add some of your own;

Robert, NSW - Politicians should have the same rules and regulations as the general public when it comes to superannuation and the likes. These people are being paid by the public so why should they have different rules to the public at large. Entitlements rules for politicians should also be scrapped completely, no more study trips, if invited to a function let the cost be paid by the organiser.

Barry, VICTORIA - Politicians need to look in other areas for savings , perhaps their own backyards and leave and alone the people who have worked hard and provided for their retiring years. 

If you would like a more active role in this campaign, email us and let us know. We may gather a group of keen participants to join us in Canberra when we present the submission. You may also leave your comments below;

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Someone
Someone commented:

As a soldier I am sick and tired of watching Politicians tell us what they feel they are worth 

Lyn
Lyn from NSW commented:

Well done to FiftyupClub calling this the angry corner. Super monicker. Hope many of you take up the 'Call to Canberra' . See you all there. 

Lyn
Lyn from NSW commented:

Margaret of NSW made the point about people not able to save for a home until their 30's after further education (encouraged by the Govt for Australia to be smarter to keep up with rest of smart world) and she has a valid point. It is not rare for there to be a $90,000 HECS debt to repay as well as saving for a home into their 30's. The last 25yrs has seen families having children into their 40's after establishing careers, homes & often a 2nd home if a marriage has broken down due to those pressures, therefore it is not unusual for a person of current retirement age of 65 to have a student/s in uni education still at home with associated costs of text books---yes they still use them, high internet use (essential for a student) and travel costs but there is no provision in the income and asset tests for a full or part age pensioner who still has a student dependant. Youth Allowance barely covers the cost of 1 unit out of 6/8 each academic year. Yes students do work p/time but those doing hard degrees (science, maths etc) to make this country smarter, can't work 30/40hrs/wk as they simply have too much study to do to succeed at something which is costing them $90,000 to study. So we will see a snowballing effect of many more Seniors in this position and trying to get by after 1/1/17 on 20% less income due to the new measures. Mr Hockey has a lot to answer for despite that the situation was not of his making, to gouge back from Seniors part of the National debt created by others after record surpluses. With over 3million seniors they surely don't think they will be returned to power? I would rather pay the fine for the privilege of not turning up to vote next time as they are all out of touch with reality no matter what their party is. 

Susan
Susan from QLD commented:

How can the government say that we can accommodate 12,000 refugees when our hospitals cant accommodate Australians now, but I bet if one of these refugees fall ill, they will be placed in hospital before a tax paying Australian. Fix our hospitals first, before even thinking about allowing more refugees/immigration. 

margaret
margaret from NSW replied to Susan:

Gee Susan I did not think about the hospitals. When I heard about the 12,000 extra refugees we have the money to fund I rejoiced because I realized that things must have improved so much that we no longer need to hound our elderly, the tens of thousands of Australians looking for affordable accommodation had been housed and the unemployment level was down to an acceptable three or four percent with underemployment virtually wiped out. Golly gosh Susan I forgot about the situation in our hospitals. Now I am not suggesting some help should be extended to those overseas, however Australians seem to suffer from such low self esteem that every time any country in the world offers aid to anyone we say "Oh I feel ashamed of being Australian, every body around the world (other then those who think we are Austrian) are talking about how uncaring we are". The greater Australian family is just like our own family. Just as our own family can not give large amounts to every good cause but most of us give the help we can, without leaving our own family members HUNGRY OR HOMELESS nor can or country be expected to give more or even the same as others to every good cause. After all, when we built 120 schools in Indonesia and sent much aid for victims of natural disasters, other countries from Ireland to Germany etc Were not overwhelmed by deep shame at not doing exactly the same, and we did not expect them to. 

June
June from QLD commented:

Have you ever noticed that Local, State and Federal politicians all start to take so called trips for government reasons when there is a hint that they might not be there much longer. They are having a great life at the expense of the taxpayer. 

June
June from QLD commented:

HELLO!!!! The government says t6hat they can not afford to keep paying the people who have made this country a good place to live, yet they are bringing in my refugees and paying $44 million to care for people from other countries. What a laugh. My great grand parents came out to Australia and paid to get here on the first boats and had no house to move into or any hand outs. Why is there no money for the elderly and they can give $44 million away to other countries and place more foreigners in nice brick homes with all the luxuries. I live in an old timber house that I have been in for 50 years and scratch every day to stay on top of things. The government has done their best to take me down for having my say. Please speak out if you need help as this is the place to get things moving. 

Kerrie
Kerrie from NSW commented:

I see the politicians super as no different to that of private enterprise super. It's a negotiated entitlement where as the age pension is welfare and it should only be given to people after all their assets have been exhausted. I see that latest clawing back of the assets test are just the beginning of more to come. Why should a couple with over a million dollars be entitled to the age pension and all the benefits while our young people struggle daily to make ends meet? The home is the most inequitable part of the old age pension and the sooner it is included in the assets test the better for everyone. Why should an couple with a $2 million house with little other assets get the full pension while another couple with a $500,000 house with $1.5 million in assets get nothing? I see it nothing more than a way of passing on wealth to the next generation at the expense of all taxpayers. Regarding the current super scheme I would like to see it left alone so that people have an incentive to save for their retirement and use it when retired. But I can't see this happening so have told my kids not to invest any more than they have to into super but to invest elsewhere where it is protected from the future changes to the super rules. Yes I have answered your survey but my views have not been mentioned. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Kerrie:

Totally agree with everything you've articulated here. Those that can should look after themselves with a range of saving forms, not just Super. Those that can't have the pension etc. to provide for basic living standards. Also, why don't the extended families help out as well. 

Frank
Frank from QLD replied to Kerrie:

I see your point Kerrie, but I also think of pensioners still living in ordinary homes they purchased while they were young, now instead of being considered lucky that housing demand in their area has pushed values higher than average, they would suffer a penalty for an asset test on the current high value of there once average value home. 

Robin
Robin from NSW commented:

Politicians are isolated in Canberra. the Canberra press gallery are isolated in Canberra. Canberra is a goldfish bowl and the pollies and journos are in there opening and closing their mouths saying what they believe we should be hearing. All rules should be the same for everyone. All super should be defined contribution not defined benefit so the member bears the risk. All major changes to things like super, testing for qualification of government pension, capital gains tax etc should be grandfathered because changes are still needed but should not be retrospective e.g. contributions to super should receive only a 15% discount and not be taxed at 15% as at present. Each member of parliament should receive a remuneration package comprising base salary, travel allowance, electorate servicing allowance, time with family allowance etc and entitlements should be scrapped. How members use their package is up to the individual member. Finally how about the political parties all of the time putting forward policies which they believe will benefit the country rather than their re election prospects and/or the vested interests which support them. Signed Disillusioned Voter 

keith
keith from VIC commented:

Margaret. Thank you for your comment. Let me say at the outset, as the saying goes, We do not know how we found time to go to work. Retirement is busy and richly rewarding. Calls on our time with family care, child care, child delivery, food/meal assistance, volunteering for Aged Care, church work, school bus runs, and so it goes on. What we are finding is that our expenses for what could be seen as unpaid work, are increasing. It is time that the Governments of today recognized the work that the retired community do freely and with love and compassion. And why is it that we hear that many pensioners are struggling to stay warm, to meet rents, and to buy food? It seems to us that our Governments are failing those most vulnerable. Keith. 

Patrick
Patrick from NSW commented:

Read the comment by Margaret from NSW,she sums it up completely,no more to say. This is why we selflessly put a roof over our heads . A 'HOME' is the foundation of Traditional Australia. 

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