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What should grandparents get in return for giving their grandkids ‘free’ childcare?

What should grandparents get in return for giving their grandkids ‘free’ childcare?

As a doting grandparent who  helps provide more childcare than any other formal service in Australia should you be paid for your services by the government or your own children?

This intriguing question follows a new report into the grey army which each week  looks after 837,000 kids and weighs up the costs and the benefits for all parties.

While most do it for love a third of those in the survey, from the National Seniors Productive Ageing Centre, incurred extras costs such as food, transport and outings.

The report, which you can see in full here (link  http://www.nationalseniors.com.au/be-informed/research/publications/grandparents)  says:

“When making the decision to take on a regular care commitment, the grandparents in the study did not weigh up the financial costs and benefits: most had not even made any attempt to calculate the household outlays associated with their care. Rather, many thought it was a normal part of their grandparent role.”

It might be being normalised but the statistics suggest  half of grandparents want  the government to compensate them for the amount of care they provide. In Australia only three percent get paid.

It’s not so crazy. In South Korea grandparents are not only paid typically about $800 a month for childcare by their grateful children but they are, according to reports, demanding even more.

And recognition can come in different ways. In the UK for example there’s a system of carer credits to the public  age pension for grandparents providing such childcare.

The survey highlighted the direct costs of the caring commitment with 70% altering the days and shifts they worked, 55% reducing their hours and even 18% changing their jobs.

Also one third of respondents reported their childcare duties meant they had to change the timing or expected timing of their retirement.

Of course many reported enjoying looking after their kids’ kids but not after a certain amount of time. 

Interestingly there’s ‘tipping point’ of 13 or more hours a week when it all becomes less enjoyable and the impacts on work and retirement are ramped up.

The conclusion of the survey is that there’s a policy black hole with no recognition of the importance of grandparent childcare to the wellbeing of families, communities and the economy.

It suggests policy reform to help these carers make better choices and mitigate the impact of providing ‘free’ childcare on their incomes, retirement plans and ability to work.

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Auriel
Auriel from NSW commented:

Most grandparents are helping their children so that they can afford to buy a house and just pay for living expenses. Yes, grandparents are working too and organising their shift work rosters around the shift work rosters pf their children. Not all people work from 0900 - 1700 hrs. There re no childcare centres which provide services from 1100 - 2300 hrs or 1900 - 0700 hrs, made longer when you add in the travel to and from work and getting off late e.g.. in hospitals, emergency services. Even if there were child care services, the cost would be incredible. If the government could provide tax breaks for grandparents working as well, or even a small carer's pay to people who are not working, this would help. After all, the grandparents are saving the government a lot of money, because otherwise most of the children being helped would have to apply for more government assistance. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Auriel:

You are not saving our Government any expense but you are providing support for your own family - and that's the way it should be. Welfare mentality/culture got Australia into the debt/deficits we have now, thanks to the socialist policies of Labor. 

John
John from NSW commented:

Some assistance would be great as we only do what we can afford. 

David
David from NSW commented:

Grandparents should be paid at least $100 per week by the government ,monthly into their bank account. 

David
David from NSW replied to David:

The Government does not have any money, it obtains funds from taxation receipts. Just in case you do not know, my taxes and millions of other taxpayers, who work and earn a wage, and you want us to pay Grandparents our hard earned money! 

David
David from NSW replied to David:

We do it because we love and care for our grandchildren and expect nothing in return. 

Margaret
Margaret from NSW commented:

We relish the privilege of bonding with our grandchildren. Life is so busy for parents of young children, we like to mind our grandchildren so enjoy them and to give their parents a break. Two year old twins can be a handful at times. Our children repay us in many other ways other than paying for child minding. 

Swietlana
Swietlana from NSW commented:

I don't expect anything, I do it because I like to do it and I like to help. I wouldn't want to be paid for it , and if I have no money to take them out I would ask for some cash to go to movies and for lunch. Would you like to pay for being looked after when you no longer can look after yourself? Do you think we would be burden to our kids...I don't think so. Love your grandchildren don't think about money. 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

I assume the 'Nanny State' will soon require all grandparents to be an accredited Carers to take on a 'child minding' task. Where are our 'extended family' values and the 'Florence Nightingale' concepts of earlier years. Why would any rational person want a Government to interfere and intrude in their way of living. 

Maureen
Maureen from NSW commented:

If grandparents want payment for babysitting, don't do it! Say no! I know many who do not want to mind grandchildren. At least they are honest. Most of us love our grandchildren, never think of the cost, and are forever learning from them. Get Government out of our lives, and families into our lives. 

Swietlana
Swietlana from NSW replied to Maureen:

Well said Maureen, I agree. 

Eva
Eva from NSW commented:

I think it only fair that grandparents are paid for childcare.After all we are allowing our children into thwe worforce and they pay taxes on their earnings. Where is our cut? 

Laurence
Laurence from NSW commented:

We have no formal arrangement apart from daughter's family (4) living with us. Rather, we are ever prepared to mind the other 7 when needed. Seems quaint to contemplate reward for what is a great joy. The bond and trust developed since birth is priceless and one is mindful of the finite nature of this. (especially an 11 year old leaping into one's arms.) Perhaps a tax deduction could work; bear in mind demographics demand serious welfare restriction in the future. We depend on the "working poor" continuing to do so. Despite working for 1 company up to 65 hours, 7 days a week, I've never been entitled to superannuation, so must carry on working. I think everyone should have a basic welfare entitlement over their lifetime with top ups for the disadvantaged. 

christine
christine from SA commented:

I help my daughter a lot with childcare to enable her to work.as she is a supporting mother who has no contact with my grandsons father (his choice). I also look after him to give my daughter a break some weekends. she cannot afford to pay me nor could I take money from her but it would be nice to have a few dollars from the government to help expenses. I am saving places in childcare for other needy parents. 

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