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To downsize, or not to downsize?

To downsize, or not to downsize?

Are those of us aged over 50 really hogging all the detached houses in suburbs close to the amenities of the CBD, at the direct expense of younger families who can’t find homes to  buy?

There’s been a fierce blame game all week after the Australian Population Research Institute claimed "empty nesters" are forcing kids to grow up without backyards by refusing to downsize and move out.

As an issue it has everything; intergenerational warfare (with baby boomers somehow at fault), the inflated and unaffordable property market, and a big slab of presumed guilt for not moving on.

Sure, the census shows up to 60% of those desirable freestanding homes in Sydney’s and Melbourne’s inner and middle suburbs are occupied by those aged over 50. And why not?

 They have grown older there and are part of the community. It’s close to health facilities and as Australian Seniors’ Michael O’Neill rightly pointed out, these were often much more humble areas in the past.

In addition the recent changes to pension eligibility outlined in the last Budget mean that if you downsize and liberate the capital from the family home, you stand to lose some or all of the pension.

Should over-50s downsize from the family home so younger families can have more space, as media reports suggested this week?

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The data suggests almost all of those lucky enough to be living in such places will stay there until they are at least 75 - and even then, they will usually choose to buy another freestanding home.

The boffins behind the report say there’s a shortfall of tens of thousands of detached houses and it will get worse over time.

 So what’s to be done, and who ends up paying given that the planners or the market seem to have got it so wrong?

Inevitably there have been controversial suggestions that the family home should be included in the pension’s assets test to encourage downsizing.

Another bright idea, which arguably would hit also hit older Australians harder, would be to replace the stamp duty on sales with an annual property tax levied for just living in your home.

None of the pundits seem to mention how many grandparents in some of these homes and gardens provide childcare for 837,000 kids a week at some cost to themselves (see our October 1 blog on this issue).

Inevitably there’s no easy answer but the first response should not be to sheet home the blame and the cost for so-called reforms to those who have done nothing else but buy and love their homes.

As you’ll see from some member comments below, you seem to feel much the same. Also do answer our snap poll on the issue - ">Should over-50s downsize from the family home so younger families can have more space, as media reports suggested this week?"

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Ferdinand
Ferdinand from NSW commented:

I totally agree that people should down size. Leaders should lead by example and Mr Turnbull's Point Piper house. This house is convenient to public transport and would house many young families. That was a serious comment. As for the young of today buy a piece off land , save and build on it when you can afford it. The MacMansion with all the mod cons and the BMW's. Eating out at the restaurants, going to night clubs and crying poor! Record low interest rates which are hurting older people who saved all their life so you can have record low borrowing rates. When I paid off my mortgage I was paying 18%, lets see you do that! 

Linda
Linda from NSW commented:

WOW I can't even believe this conversation should be happening. What on earth is happening to this country. The government needs to get it right. We worked all our life for what we have. The next generation should do the same instead of complaining about what we should do. What more do they want? Our homes! If any of the ridiculous schemes for over 50"s that government is suggesting to give these kids a free ride are even considered then we need a complete new government and that's not any of the idiots that are attempting to or pretending to run the country right now. They get childcare rebates. We didn't get them. I remember getting $22.00 a fortnight for 2 kids. These days they get about $600.00 whether they work or not. The answer is cut the tax on low to middle incomes cut the stamp duty and stop giving the money away to the freeloaders. There is so much land available to build on in Australia and new cities can be built so why do these greedy kids have to live near the CBD. Our infrastructure is pathetic so they should build new cities with new CBD's. I live in a big house on a 1000sqm block and there is no chance I'm going anywhere till I'm ready to. Stuff the govt. 

mary
mary from NSW commented:

No - older australians should not have to downsize - they worked hard to save and buy the land and then have a house built on the land. Why should they be descriminated against because they worked hard to own what they have? 

Graeme
Graeme from VIC commented:

We downsized to a townhouse in our early 70's because the house, which we built, was getting to difficult to manage. We only shifted one suburb and are very happy where we are. We believe some people leave it too late to downsize and then find that it is a very difficult task. Graeme. Victoria. 

Chris
Chris from VIC commented:

When I bought my first home, many years ago now, I had to move out to the outer suburbs where I could afford to buy. Today it is no different for the younger generation but they want everything without having to put up with a bit of travel. The government in Victoria needs to be reminded that they govern the State not Melbourne. Spend their money on encouraging business and families to move to country areas. Would solve many of the problems that are being made.At present ghettos of the future are being built. It is king of funny that many protest about animals being caged and not allowed to run the range but officialdom is doing just that to new home buyers. 

Clancy
Clancy from VIC commented:

Why should we downsize. We still need to enjoy the fruits of our labour and not live in small boxes, with no room to do what we enjoy best. 

Debora
Debora from NSW commented:

It's interesting how so many people can only see things from their own perspective. I thought that we lived in a democratic society where we were free to make decisions about own life. Why should someone else determine when we should move out of our family home? We will know when the time is right for us. It may be soon or it may be later. Our health and prosperity will no doubt be the determining factors. Chances are that at least one of our married children will return home with their family to live with us temporarily, as is often the case. Our generation has given so much to the younger ones, let us live our latter years in peace without guilt!! 

Denise
Denise from NSW commented:

How about getting rid of stamp duty if you downsize? 

Alex
Alex from NSW commented:

Why not just shoot everyone over a certain age that the 'new' generation think are old, so they can just take over what the oldies have worked all their lives for. After all this up coming generation thinks everything should be given to them, everyone should just move aside and let them in. The older generation didn't move into perfect homes with everything they need laid on and 2 cars. They did without, gradually bought furniture and luxuries as they could afford them and where they could afford to live. Now, what are they facing in their old age? The selfish greedy young expect everyone else to pay for their child care, move out of their loved homes to make way for the grasping generation, be penalised by the government with taxes and loss of pension to force them out of their homes. Is the 'greedy generation' prepared to work all their lives for the same end result? and to the Government OLD People also VOTE. Alex from NSW 

Terry
Terry from NSW commented:

No If a person has been in housing and has looked afteer the residence they should be left to stay their for the rest of their life. They have paaid taxes and grown up in this enviroment and have did it the hard way , some having to work 2 & 3 jobs to make ends meet. It was not easy so they should be left alone and in peace. 

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