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To downsize, or not to downsize?

To downsize, or not to downsize?

Are those of us aged over 50 really hogging all the detached houses in suburbs close to the amenities of the CBD, at the direct expense of younger families who can’t find homes to  buy?

There’s been a fierce blame game all week after the Australian Population Research Institute claimed "empty nesters" are forcing kids to grow up without backyards by refusing to downsize and move out.

As an issue it has everything; intergenerational warfare (with baby boomers somehow at fault), the inflated and unaffordable property market, and a big slab of presumed guilt for not moving on.

Sure, the census shows up to 60% of those desirable freestanding homes in Sydney’s and Melbourne’s inner and middle suburbs are occupied by those aged over 50. And why not?

 They have grown older there and are part of the community. It’s close to health facilities and as Australian Seniors’ Michael O’Neill rightly pointed out, these were often much more humble areas in the past.

In addition the recent changes to pension eligibility outlined in the last Budget mean that if you downsize and liberate the capital from the family home, you stand to lose some or all of the pension.

Should over-50s downsize from the family home so younger families can have more space, as media reports suggested this week?

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The data suggests almost all of those lucky enough to be living in such places will stay there until they are at least 75 - and even then, they will usually choose to buy another freestanding home.

The boffins behind the report say there’s a shortfall of tens of thousands of detached houses and it will get worse over time.

 So what’s to be done, and who ends up paying given that the planners or the market seem to have got it so wrong?

Inevitably there have been controversial suggestions that the family home should be included in the pension’s assets test to encourage downsizing.

Another bright idea, which arguably would hit also hit older Australians harder, would be to replace the stamp duty on sales with an annual property tax levied for just living in your home.

None of the pundits seem to mention how many grandparents in some of these homes and gardens provide childcare for 837,000 kids a week at some cost to themselves (see our October 1 blog on this issue).

Inevitably there’s no easy answer but the first response should not be to sheet home the blame and the cost for so-called reforms to those who have done nothing else but buy and love their homes.

As you’ll see from some member comments below, you seem to feel much the same. Also do answer our snap poll on the issue - ">Should over-50s downsize from the family home so younger families can have more space, as media reports suggested this week?"

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Carolyn
Carolyn from QLD commented:

No, over 50s shouldn't downsize, both sets of my grandparents had free standing houses with huge backyards, & 2 sets of great grandparents were still actively farming. I have great memories of family get togethers & playing with lots of cousins & 2nd cousins at all the grandie's places. The families wouldn't have been able to get together if the grandies had downsized. 

Maureen
Maureen from NSW commented:

With interest rates at an all-time low, young people can get a home. Trouble is, they are reluctant to reduce their lifestyle to achieve that goal. We lived in a caravan before buying our home and the interest rate was 15%. No, do not feel guilty for working hard and making the necessary sacrifices to get your home. 

Peter
Peter from VIC commented:

Maybe young idiots ( my kids included) should drink less, stop eating out, and work more, then they might be able to afford a house. This has nothing to do with older people keeping onto their houses longer - if they actually are? In any case, when, why or how older people sell their homes, has got absolutely nothing to do with anyone other than them 

LESLIE
LESLIE from QLD commented:

no over 50s should not have to down size . they have worked hard for what they have ,we are sick of the next generation expecting everything done for them that's partly whats wrong with people now . start new cities , build more for the future instead of letting the media run the country, with unreasonable demands on useless pollys . 

Raymond
Raymond from NSW commented:

Downsize oh yeah. Move into a retirement village with all their fees.Pay $500.000. for a one bedroom unit. Move out and pay them $125.000 "Deferred Management Fee" plus 50% of the Capital Gain and have to pay them the monthly rent until the place is sold. At least Ned Kelly wore a mask and carried a gun so you knew that you were being robbed. Why doesn't the Government do something about this. Get real, give us "oldies" a break. 

Matt and Nevenka
Matt and Nevenka from NSW commented:

Hi, I do not know why this is on the Over 50s. If we did not have buffoons running this country or states there would be infrastructure in place to cater for a controlled release of land for building now and into the future. What we have today is a focus on the gaps in the cities that are still un/under developed where the developers and all levels of government are trying to maximise their individual returns, developers - profits, State government - Stamp duty and Federal Government GST and CGT. Stop this rubbish now and start a long term strategic plan for this great country of ours, if you are not capable or competent then get out of the way and let someone in who can. Give us infrastructure - Dams for Water, Fast Rail between cities, roads developed with a 20 year forward view not a 10 year rear vision view of planning and of course the utilities needed to support urban growth. 

shirley
shirley from NSW commented:

No! As hard as it is for the younger generations it's time to stop whining .Wait for the mansions. Three bedrooms/1 bathroom will get you going. Perhaps the present government can control overseas buyers!!! 

Alan
Alan from NSW commented:

There you go, those bloody old people at it again. If it wasn't bad enough that they are a drain on the health system, and for those poor buggers who have to rely upon the pittance which is the age pension, the welfare system as well, they are now getting in the way of younger people getting a house. Evict them I say and while we are at it make it illegal for an old person to be sitting on a bus or train if a younger person does not have a seat. The government should do more for the younger ones. Heaven knows baby bonuses, mummy and daddy stay at home bonuses, maternity leave, paternity leave, family tax benefit A and B (whatever the hell they are) all do not go very far. The government should start a family tax benefit C which automatically gives young people a house, in a place of their choice of course, and if an oldie has to be moved on in the process, well so be it. Hold on, I have it !! All those detention centres that are being freed up, we just move all the old people into them and bingo, freed up houses. 

Carolyn
Carolyn from QLD commented:

Didn't they ever see The Castle??? "Tell 'em they're dreaming" 

Robert
Robert from NSW commented:

We purchased our land in 1967 and built our house in 1973 after working in PNG; it was difficult obtaining a mortgage as only my salary was considered by the banks. Many of our friends and family said "Why would you build way out there?", as the property was 14 km from the CBD. Over time, urban growth now means our suburb might be considered an inner suburb. We chose the area for the lifestyle, view and the property value was within our means. We have worked hard in paying the mortgage without the benefits many of the younger generation seem to have compared to us at their age including our daughter; not that I begrudge them of the benefits. I remember paying an interest rate of up to 17% without support. If we sold our house today, we could not buy a property with benefits of the area we now live in. We would not only be downsizing our home but also downsizing our lifestyle. We would absolutely dread downsizing into a Strata managed complex. We are self-funded retirees and do not have a pension but do criticize governments thinking of including the family home in the assets test. Many pensioners have owned their home for decades and the value of the home today would outweigh the cost of the home when purchased as a result of inflation creep, no fault of their own. There maybe situations when the family home might be included in the assets test but a carte blanche approach would not be warranted. The property market problems are a result of mismanagement and poor planning by governments of all levels. We need to keep things in perspective as the Australian entitlement of owning you own quarter acre block is something many other countries can not aspire to. 

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