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Petrol Prices Dropping, But Where And How Will You Know?

Petrol Prices Dropping, But Where And How Will You Know?

Driving both up and down the NSW coast these holidays, the news reports on how world oil prices were plummeting were somewhat contradicted by the petrol prices on offer.

 

The Saudis are flooding the market with cheap oil said the media but precious little of it seemed to be flowing to the Pacific Highway where many prices persisted around $1.29.

Interestingly the best buys I found both north and south of Sydney were at independents either with a bowser, by a fruit shop or a non-supermarket aligned servo.

Also there was new research suggesting oil companies were cunningly exploiting the market, especially in Sydney, to not pass on anything like the decline in oil prices to retail petrol customers.

But as with so much in life what counts is less what you may be powerless to change, at least in the short-term, and instead what strategies there are to get more even.

The oil barons can always change their minds and pigs could fly before the ACCC, the consumer and competition commission, find ways to make the petrol prices ‘fairer’.

 But as a motorist can partially beat the system and get a better price for petrol and there’s new hope thanks to the ACCC settling a court action with the retailers.

The consumer revolution courtesy of mobiles and the ‘net has helped unpick the driver’s dilemma, of where and when to fill up by correcting what’s called an ‘information asymmetry’ or imbalance.

Simply put the retailers, as the full time professional sellers, know all of the prices all of the time. Yet motorists , as part time amateur buyers,  are only aware of posted prices they see.

And timing is critical. In the cities, at least, the cost of a litre of unleaded can unpredictably shoot up in price by 20% in minutes and then slowly slide to the bottom of the price cycle by a cent or two a day.

There have been various online and mobile platforms to help the driver with more price information but it hasn’t always been timely enough.

The ACCC offers an analysis of the price cycle in the big cities and advises to delay buying if posted prices are falling or to buy now if there’s an imminent rise predicted. However it’s only updated every couple of days.

Motoring organisations, such as the NRMA in NSW, also offer details of the cheapest petrol in your suburb and there are private operators such as MotorMouth which share more details nationwide.

It all helps of course. The NRMA identified a 32 cent difference in price between a BP garage a neighbouring independent in Milperra but in reality you need to know what’s happening in your patch and when.

Last year the ACCC took the petrol retailers and a company called Informed Sources to court for exchanging price information every 15 minutes in ways which could dampen competition.

The agreement they hammered out means ordinary consumers can, from mid-2016, access the same price information as the industry.

The freed-up data will be given to third parties, such as motoring organisations and app developers, to find innovative and useful ways to deliver it to the public.

In a separate move, which only affects NSW, petrol stations will be forced to display their prices in real time on the Fair Trading website which will track all changes.

It’s part of the Baird government’s push to encourage greater use of ethanol in petrol and while that remains highly contentious, the information, if it’s easy enough to access, should be welcomed by drivers.

As with all technologies and government initiatives much depends on how the consumer is prepared to engage with these initiatives.

But from my experience of driving up the highway and filling up more than 100 litres at $1.24 and then finding it ten cents cheaper just down the road I’d appreciate all the help I can get.

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Brett
Brett from NSW commented:

Having or knowing where the cheaper fuel is, in my opinion will only drive up the cost of fuel long term. The "Fuel Barron's" have full control due to our weak government's strive for a fair deal. If they see their profits dropping will in no doubt raise or keep fuel prices high. Owning & running my own business I use quite an amount of fuel in my equipment. Over time I have learnt the hard & very expensive way what fuels to stay away from. The poor quality Ethanol is just that, extremely dangerous to certain types of engines. It will destroy an engine very quick, one piece of my equipment only lasted a week running on it, repair bill was dearer than a new piece of equipment. The general public are being conned, Ethanol is a waste bi-product from refining crude oil, this is just another way of using up stock piles of bi-product which cannot be simply dumped or burnt off easily and another way for government to slug motorists. Car manufacturers spend literally billions of dollars designing their products. when they are finally released for sale to the public there are now multiple exclusion clauses written into their policies about what types of fuels will void its warranty. This is very alarming, I now only use quality fuels both petrol & Diesel. I know straight away when I have a bad batch of fuel, believe me it seems to be more frequent than intermittent these days, consumption and or power drops then returns to normal with another load of fuel, very coincidental to me. Every time I go back to the service station to raise my concerns I am simply laughed at being told my engines are out of tune that they need servicing. How can anyone beat these giants at ripping off the general public, it has been done for years and will continue for years to come. I have been a licenced Motor mechanic for nearly 30yrs & do know the workings of an engine. Buying cheap fuel ((ethanol & imported) along with contaminated fuels will lead to a very expensive repair bill, 

Jeremy
Jeremy from NSW commented:

Sorry, everyone - "Price should be be another 30%" LESS 

Jeremy
Jeremy from NSW commented:

Price should be be another 30%. Why? barrel prices havev drop to the levels pre 2011. AU$ is also back to pre 2011. The ACCC is not doing enough to bring down the prices. ALL the motor association is not doing anything except advocate speed kills to bolster the money raised by the government. It does not reduce the insurance cost. In fact they are the culprit in raising cost hence all the private insurance follow suit. They advocate using e10 to keep maninda in profit so as to fund the government parties' election and super fund. The ACCC is more concern with protecting the companies and corporation profits than to protect the consumer from raising petrol / electricity / water comsumer cost. Unleaded should be at 0.85c and PULP should be 0.98c. e10 should be banned. 

Ian
Ian from SA commented:

I have maintained for years, the best way to fix this is to boycott Each Oil company in turn until they drop their prices, they All have Allowances, as to how much they take, and cannot afford to be boycotted, if their pumps are sitting idle, It wont take them long to realize that they need to drop their prices to Get their fuel quota moving, I can remember when many years ago the price of potatoes went through the roof, the Victorian house wives association said that's it, no more potatoes till you drop your prices, within a week, the prices halved, so boycotting each oil company in turn will work. Regards Ian 

Ian
Ian from QLD commented:

Pity the low prices aren't reflected in Central Queensland. While the prices have dropped, they are still 117.9-118.9 in Rockhampton and Yeppoon while in Brisbane they are under a dollar. Ian from Yeppoon. 

Vicli
Vicli from NSW commented:

Vicki from Newcastle. We are being held to ransom over petrol. If possible avoid driving your car and catch public transport. 

Vicli
Vicli from NSW commented:

Why dhould motorists pay morecehen the cost is reduced forcthe petrol companies c to buy b it. Who is ripping who off. 

Someone
Someone from WA commented:

I just filled my Landcruiser at Chidlow in the Perth hills with 100 liters of diesel @ $1.01 a litre. Premium petrol was $1.22. Coles and Woolies are still 10 cents dearer with discount. Good profit. Regards, John 

Someone
Someone from VIC commented:

I agree with you. I went to an Independent Petrol station in Melbourne and filled up for $1.03 . The price at Coles Petrol Station in the same area was $1.13 & $1.09 with the discount coupon . Just doesn't make sense !!! 

Gertraud
Gertraud from ACT commented:

And how long do you think will the "independent" petrol station keep their fuel that low????? 

Brian Howard
Brian Howard from QLD commented:

Sorry for the confusion my margin should read not before tax profit, so out of one cent a litre I still had to pay income tax, and if you had a few nasty assholes drive off without paying you made nothing for that day. 

Brian Howard
Brian Howard from QLD commented:

In the 1980's I owned a small private service station in Noosaville and at that time we were making one cent a litre and had to rely on mechanical repairs & tyre sales to make a living. When I questioned the wholesaler, he said because they owned the pumps my wholesale profit margin was to be five cents a litre, which after expenses equated to one cent not before profit. A retired petrol station owner said that he owned three petrol outlets in Townsville and if he agreed to sell at the wholesalers suggested price, he would get a kick back of ten cents a litre. All private petrol resellers have to pay cash on delivery and unlike the fuel tankers that fill jet passenger planes petrol tankers arrive any time of the day and if it is in summer the petrol in the bulk tank expands and the oil company makes an extra profit on nothing as after a night in the underground tanks the petrol condenses back to its true liquid volume leaving the reseller with a deficit reading, and from my observations this practice of unloading fuel from tanker to underground tanks is through a plain industrial clamp on hose, and not through a special meter as used in the airline industry. The history of big oil can be summed up by looking at Shell Dutch Oil who supplied the Nazis with fuel and at the same time Dutch citizens were being killed in their thousands.The answer is strict government control as in last October I travelled around Nova Scotia Canada where petrol prices were within 3 cents in Halifax in the far eastern side to the prices being charged in Quebec and Montreal in the centre, and when I asked how this came to be the answer was that the government made the fuel companies charge within a certain range of what the international crude oil price per barrel was. Not the insane pricing we have via the Singapore spot price. Singapore isn't an oil producer, just a price fixer for Asia. 

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