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Petrol Prices Dropping, But Where And How Will You Know?

Petrol Prices Dropping, But Where And How Will You Know?

Driving both up and down the NSW coast these holidays, the news reports on how world oil prices were plummeting were somewhat contradicted by the petrol prices on offer.

 

The Saudis are flooding the market with cheap oil said the media but precious little of it seemed to be flowing to the Pacific Highway where many prices persisted around $1.29.

Interestingly the best buys I found both north and south of Sydney were at independents either with a bowser, by a fruit shop or a non-supermarket aligned servo.

Also there was new research suggesting oil companies were cunningly exploiting the market, especially in Sydney, to not pass on anything like the decline in oil prices to retail petrol customers.

But as with so much in life what counts is less what you may be powerless to change, at least in the short-term, and instead what strategies there are to get more even.

The oil barons can always change their minds and pigs could fly before the ACCC, the consumer and competition commission, find ways to make the petrol prices ‘fairer’.

 But as a motorist can partially beat the system and get a better price for petrol and there’s new hope thanks to the ACCC settling a court action with the retailers.

The consumer revolution courtesy of mobiles and the ‘net has helped unpick the driver’s dilemma, of where and when to fill up by correcting what’s called an ‘information asymmetry’ or imbalance.

Simply put the retailers, as the full time professional sellers, know all of the prices all of the time. Yet motorists , as part time amateur buyers,  are only aware of posted prices they see.

And timing is critical. In the cities, at least, the cost of a litre of unleaded can unpredictably shoot up in price by 20% in minutes and then slowly slide to the bottom of the price cycle by a cent or two a day.

There have been various online and mobile platforms to help the driver with more price information but it hasn’t always been timely enough.

The ACCC offers an analysis of the price cycle in the big cities and advises to delay buying if posted prices are falling or to buy now if there’s an imminent rise predicted. However it’s only updated every couple of days.

Motoring organisations, such as the NRMA in NSW, also offer details of the cheapest petrol in your suburb and there are private operators such as MotorMouth which share more details nationwide.

It all helps of course. The NRMA identified a 32 cent difference in price between a BP garage a neighbouring independent in Milperra but in reality you need to know what’s happening in your patch and when.

Last year the ACCC took the petrol retailers and a company called Informed Sources to court for exchanging price information every 15 minutes in ways which could dampen competition.

The agreement they hammered out means ordinary consumers can, from mid-2016, access the same price information as the industry.

The freed-up data will be given to third parties, such as motoring organisations and app developers, to find innovative and useful ways to deliver it to the public.

In a separate move, which only affects NSW, petrol stations will be forced to display their prices in real time on the Fair Trading website which will track all changes.

It’s part of the Baird government’s push to encourage greater use of ethanol in petrol and while that remains highly contentious, the information, if it’s easy enough to access, should be welcomed by drivers.

As with all technologies and government initiatives much depends on how the consumer is prepared to engage with these initiatives.

But from my experience of driving up the highway and filling up more than 100 litres at $1.24 and then finding it ten cents cheaper just down the road I’d appreciate all the help I can get.

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Heather
Heather from QLD commented:

We people who leave up here in bundaberg bargara area for the past 3 to 5 years, have allways paid anything from 10 13 cents a litre more than the south east, accc dont seem to help use up here nor the qld gov, even now we paid 1.19 for petrol at coles or woolworths. WHY. 

Charles
Charles from NSW commented:

Solution? Select one of the two major suppliers, Caltex or Shell. Have users boycott the one selected, say Caltex, and buy only from Shell until the price at Caltex comes down to an announced and reasonable low amount, say $1.00/liter. When Caltex lowers to $1.00 / liter, announce for all to switch back to Caltex and this time put the pressure on Shell with a boycott.. Some consumers won't play but the pressure on the brand that is shut out with a boycott should feel a significant pressure. It is time the consumers start colluding just as the retailers are doing. Leave BP and the independents out of the boycotts. They will be forced to follow as consumers will mostly buy from whoever the cheapest, Caltex of Shell.. An organisation like the 50 up club is ideal to .to manage the project since your communication with the public already exist........Comment?....... Chilla@ihug.com.au 

Ian
Ian from TAS replied to Charles:

If enough people did this, it would work. How do you propose to do it? 

Ian
Ian from SA replied to Ian:

Ian, allow the fiftyupclub to arbitrate, and if they say this time it is Shell, so be it, we ALL Boycott Shell, My Comment is along the lines of Charles, Boycott the ones that rip us off, they won't like being hurt in the Pocket. 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to Ian:

boycott or not is not the answer. A complete enquiry into the activities of the petrol companies should be called. ACCC should be hauled in and questioned for their lack of doing anything "FULLY" constructive - no half hearted rubbish. 

Ian
Ian from TAS replied to Ian:

We have three petrol outlets in town. BP 1.30cent per lts United 1.30 per lt and independent 1.23 cents per lt. The independent has been 1.23 c/lt all Christmas and the others have just come down. Visitor to out town paid through the neck over Christmas. Even food went up over Christmas to fleece locals and visitors. 

Ian
Ian from TAS commented:

It's all OK for petrol users, but what about those of us that use Diesel? From what I know diesel is cheaper to produce than petrol, so why is it not cheaper? 

Ian
Ian from TAS replied to Ian:

Petrol in our town $1.23.00 per lt Diesel $1.20.00 cents per lt 

Ian
Ian from TAS commented:

Petrol prices may be dropping but not in tasmania 

barry
barry from QLD commented:

may be ok in big cities but in regional far north queensland the retailers stick to gether and rarely pass and price drop on cunsumers ,in fact if they change any prices ,strangely all change to the same price at the same time isnt that price fixing? 

Robyn
Robyn from QLD commented:

Can someone tell me what the ACCC does to earn their wages.!!!! They certainly don't help the consumer. Robyn.Sunshine Coast. 

Someone
Someone from QLD commented:

I have just returned to Australia from 2 years in Malaysia, their petrol prices are controlled by the Government, set each month based on the previous months average oil price. This control is over both government and private fuel stations, when I left last week Ron 95 petrol was RM1.85 (ringgit) = Aud $0.62 - yes, 0.62 cents per litre for 95 Ron petrol are we being ripped off? 

Bernadette
Bernadette from NSW commented:

My concern is that the Government does not want the bowser price to drop as it effects their income through less GST. 

Patrick
Patrick from VIC replied to Bernadette:

I understand that the main tax on fuel is Commonwealth excise at 38.6 cent per litre plus GST on the excise. 

Bernadette
Bernadette from NSW commented:

Has anyone asked the oil companies why the huge discrepancy in cost between ordinary unleaded and the premium brands.One assumes that the cost to refine all the brands are the same, therefore meaning that the bowser price for premium should be the same as unleaded 91. Are we being treated like mushrooms, that is being kept in the dark? 

Patrick
Patrick from VIC replied to Bernadette:

Agree. As I drive a 2004 Mazda 6 I have to use 95 RON or higher fuel. Not cheap. 

Peter
Peter from QLD commented:

Something I forgot to mention is that here in Stanthorpe (a town of 5000 people), diesel fuel is 105.9 c/l at an independent garage, cheaper than the Woolworths outlet in town. Petrol may be a couple of cents cheaper. So if a small outlet can sell it for that price, why can't the big ones in the big towns & cities? It's very noticeable that the prices are always higher in the larger centres. Obviously, they collude with each other but amazingly, the ACCC can never see this, & while ever the government refuses to give them the power that they should have, nothing will change. When all the flag waving is happening on Australia Day, people should think about how we have become the rip-off capitol of the world. It doesn't only apply to fuel prices. 

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