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We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

 

Political manoeuvring this week saw the Greens back the government’s changes to the pension assets test, saving the budget a handy $2.4 billion but injecting even more uncertainty into superannuation.

Ballooning costs are good reasons to amend retirement incomes policy, as our members acknowledge, but not everyone should be happy with them being subject to 11th hour back-room political fixes to sidestep Labor’s opposition to the changes.

After months of promises that super policy would be left alone, the Greens have put super under the spotlight of the forthcoming tax review in ways which will naturally unsettle many of those counting on some greater certainty around their nest egg and protection from government raids.

The PM and Shorten have taunted each other by claiming, in the one simple take-out from events, that Labor is going after super and the government is targeting pensions.

In our last survey before the Budget, two-thirds said it was time to review tax concessions on super for those with large super balances.

But a larger majority (72%) of the 13,000 respondents supported the idea floated by former premier Jeff Kennett and others for a permanent, bipartisan body to make long–term retirement policy decisions.[1]

And dozens of comments echoed the fiery sentiment that we couldn’t trust the political process to provide stable policy on retirement incomes and it’s time it was outsourced to an independent Reserve Bank-style statutory body.

The conflicting commentary on the radio today and the concerned and confused questions from callers suggests ongoing problems around the tightened assets test, which doesn’t actually apply until Jan 2017.

Some will point out it’s only returning the status quo on eligibility to where it was before the then-PM John Howard made generous concessions before an election in 2007. And even if you are less eligible for the pension you’ll still get the seniors health card and its discounts.

The raw figures show while 170,000 less well-off retirees will then get an extra $30 a fortnight, amongst the better-off some 90,000 will lose the part-pension altogether and a quarter of a million will have it reduced.

But better-off on paper isn’t “rolling in it” in reality. This was the argument which Labor seemed to be advancing, until they were trumped politically by the Greens.

So far we haven’t heard much of the plight of these so-called ‘losers’ from the bargain with the government and the Greens, but there may be more to come.

The Australian Seniors group have highlighted the problem for single pensioners with not always  flash levels of  assets. Their part pensions would erode with $500,000 of assets, besides the family home, leaving them worse off than if they relied entirely on a pension. But the government says they should be drawing down on their assets, not planning to pass them on.

For couples who hold assets on top of the home, the new level will be $823,000.

Whichever way you cut the numbers, or perceive the fairness or otherwise of the eligibility changes, it’s more likely that ever that polarised policies will propel pensions and super to the fore of the next election.

And that’s why we’ve renewed our call today in support of the Jeff Kennett idea. Let us know what you think in the forum below.

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Pam
Pam from VIC commented:

Most government employees receive 17% superannuation and a lot have guaranteed funds. There needs to be more equality and confidence in superannuation. These changes will not effect those mentioned above, so the care factor is only if they will get re-elected. The way to save money for the government (which would impact fairly on those above also) is that if a fund or individual has more than 2M in their account they no longer qualify for the tax discounts on monies going in. This is in line with if you earn over 300k the benefit stops. This will enable it to continue for lower income people trying to become self funding. Superannuation needs to be tightened up as changing laws and hidden fees erode our hard work. 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

"No cuts or changes to pensions." ABBOTT Wednesday 28 August 2013 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

This is one of the 30 or so lies (one a day before the elections, I kept them all, just ask me for any of 'em...) Abbott told us to convince us to elect his party, to elect him (The Libs only got 32.02 % of the votes, mind you, Labor got 33.38 % of those votes: there must be some 'party poopers' somewhere...) ! If we were say, in France (where there are not woozy wusses, them...) there would be a revolution... What are we going to do about it? If not a revolution ? 

Nicholas
Nicholas from NSW commented:

I plan to work for three more years and by then i will be 70yrs and i assume this will please our present governments unnofficial policy.By then my super combined with my wifes' super will allow me to own one of my two investment houses (grosses $400 per week rental) and leaves me cash in bank $300,000.At current fixed interest rates of 3% this gives me another $9000. per year ie $ 174.per week.i would have to live on $574 per week....less than most combined family pensions.What a crime these politicians have committed.You work hard all your life and then told to sell your home or borrow on your asset to maintain a good life in retirement.Maybe i should compare how lucky i am that i don't live in a third world country but it maybe where i will spend my retirement as cost of living is affordable in some of these places. Nick from Croydon Park 

david
david from QLD commented:

This forum was supposed to be about retirement incomes but if it is going to be open slather on polly and fat cat abuse, why can't we have full and frank disclosure of everything that makes up the salary packages of every senior public servant and politician? This could include the full details of superannuation schemes and whether they are fully funded. I don't mean the broad disclosure that presently exists, I mean search by name and get precise details. All those in receipt of public funds should be open to full scrutiny. If they don't like the lack of privacy, perhaps find something else to do. David Qld 

Les
Les from QLD commented:

Totally agree with the proposal 

david
david from QLD commented:

I'm talking about Superannuation POLICY. There should be no retrospective changes for those who have already chosen to retire subject to the rules at the time. They quarantined assets purchased prior to capital gains tax legislation becoming effective. They can do the same for existing self-funded retirees. David in Queensland 

Bob
Bob from NSW commented:

Lyn, thanks for your support. I think Alain is like Tony Abbott,, he has lost the plot. 

Bernard
Bernard from NSW commented:

unionists like Shorten go into parliament so they can become eligible for a good lifetime pension. 

Donald
Donald from QLD commented:

The solution is easy, restart the Commonwealth Bank in the format that it was originally intended and let every man woman and child pay a fee into that bank per annum and that will determine the amount of pension you can acquire when you retire from work.Private superannuation should also be encouraged but they are subject to market forces and another crash is coming whereas this bank would let you know how much you could get every fortnight as a minimum. Just as medibank supports our health let this bank support our retirement and take it completely away from politicians who only use it as a bargaining chip at election time. If it is part of consolidated revenue then it will always be the first thing that they look at, rather than study their conscience and morals as they blame us for their incompetence. 

Rob
Rob from VIC commented:

re Warren's comment...don't appreciate cynical comments as you have no idea of my circumstances and I have never been in a union !! I have spent 50 years in the financial planning industry so I'm guessing I know a bit about financial advice. Most sensible people would agree that shifting the goal posts for retirees is not a good thing if it means a reduction in living standards;happy for others to get an increase though.Please keep you comments to yourself. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Rob:

Yes Rob, on reflection my previous comment was remiss of me. Sorry. 

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