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We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

 

Political manoeuvring this week saw the Greens back the government’s changes to the pension assets test, saving the budget a handy $2.4 billion but injecting even more uncertainty into superannuation.

Ballooning costs are good reasons to amend retirement incomes policy, as our members acknowledge, but not everyone should be happy with them being subject to 11th hour back-room political fixes to sidestep Labor’s opposition to the changes.

After months of promises that super policy would be left alone, the Greens have put super under the spotlight of the forthcoming tax review in ways which will naturally unsettle many of those counting on some greater certainty around their nest egg and protection from government raids.

The PM and Shorten have taunted each other by claiming, in the one simple take-out from events, that Labor is going after super and the government is targeting pensions.

In our last survey before the Budget, two-thirds said it was time to review tax concessions on super for those with large super balances.

But a larger majority (72%) of the 13,000 respondents supported the idea floated by former premier Jeff Kennett and others for a permanent, bipartisan body to make long–term retirement policy decisions.[1]

And dozens of comments echoed the fiery sentiment that we couldn’t trust the political process to provide stable policy on retirement incomes and it’s time it was outsourced to an independent Reserve Bank-style statutory body.

The conflicting commentary on the radio today and the concerned and confused questions from callers suggests ongoing problems around the tightened assets test, which doesn’t actually apply until Jan 2017.

Some will point out it’s only returning the status quo on eligibility to where it was before the then-PM John Howard made generous concessions before an election in 2007. And even if you are less eligible for the pension you’ll still get the seniors health card and its discounts.

The raw figures show while 170,000 less well-off retirees will then get an extra $30 a fortnight, amongst the better-off some 90,000 will lose the part-pension altogether and a quarter of a million will have it reduced.

But better-off on paper isn’t “rolling in it” in reality. This was the argument which Labor seemed to be advancing, until they were trumped politically by the Greens.

So far we haven’t heard much of the plight of these so-called ‘losers’ from the bargain with the government and the Greens, but there may be more to come.

The Australian Seniors group have highlighted the problem for single pensioners with not always  flash levels of  assets. Their part pensions would erode with $500,000 of assets, besides the family home, leaving them worse off than if they relied entirely on a pension. But the government says they should be drawing down on their assets, not planning to pass them on.

For couples who hold assets on top of the home, the new level will be $823,000.

Whichever way you cut the numbers, or perceive the fairness or otherwise of the eligibility changes, it’s more likely that ever that polarised policies will propel pensions and super to the fore of the next election.

And that’s why we’ve renewed our call today in support of the Jeff Kennett idea. Let us know what you think in the forum below.

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Nicholas
Nicholas from VIC commented:

Well, let's look at the benefits the politicians are getting. Let's add up what every politician past and present cost us over the period of their lives both during and after politics. Some of these people have never had a real job or run a business. Sure, reward a politician whilst he/she is in the job, but not when he/she is voted out. Get down to centrelink mate! And past PM's? Haven't they been voted out or booted out either by the people or their parties? Centerlink again mate! Take the power over our savings away from the pollies!!!!! Anonymous. 

Lyn
Lyn from NSW commented:

ONLINE PETITION. It seems from this thread that many feel vehemently against the Seniors pension 2015 Budget Measures, for the same reasons. Other than the posters who have a gripe with the principle of this thread, perhaps as the overwhelming majority of posters don't like the Measures likely to be imposed in 2017 because of the Greens alliance today, the principal of the Fiftyup Club site can be approached to set up an online petition to lobby those in power for those who wish to have their voices heard. There is obvious dismay for so many and how do we fix it unless we think of something proof-positive and practical to take to the politicians. Lobbying and managing an online site needs time and money to get results so phooey to the poster who thinks that the site manager is lining his/her pocket. Please post if you support an online petition. I undertake to contact the management of this website with the suggestion of an online petition. Petitions work if you spread the word I am very encouraged by the number of women who have posted as until today I thought I was the only one who had the same fears & at a loss of how to try to sort, but Girls, I think we could bring our good sense (& budgeting powers) to this battle. As we are retired we should find time to fight this. PLEASE POST IF YOU SUPPORT AN ONLINE PETITION. I have no affiliation with the site & only found it after a news segment on Channel 7 News at 6pm. 

Patricia
Patricia from NSW commented:

Left in the hands of the government we may be leaving it in an open box. If the financial state of our Federal Government after the previous governments disgraceful management, There could be a law/regulation that a % of the interest that is gained on our super will go back into Government coffers. Put it in to the hands of a reliable organisation, Mr Jeff Kennett seems to have his head screwed on and I feel that he is trustworthy. I would back his decision. 

Wolfgang
Wolfgang from NSW commented:

It seems to be unbelievably stupid that from the 1st of January, 2017 onwards you are actually better off reducing your assets by whatever means to get them to a level of approx. under $ 500000 or lower as a couple and then drawing a pension and being better off. What a system !!! I totally support the idea of an independent and bipartisan body overseeing the whole of the Pension System. .........it can't come too quickly and one should not even wait until the next election. Wolfgang Bose 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Wolfgang:

You are not wrong there, Wolfgang, "STUPID" is the word: well spotted... 

Alan
Alan from VIC commented:

I am a single pensioner and will be affected by the changes. The only thing this will do is push me onto a full pension earlier as i have no intention of changing my life style and current interest rates will mean that I must draw on my capital to survive. It is plainly obvious that you cannot trust any politicians, to look after anyone but themselves. 

Mark
Mark from NSW commented:

Definitely need to remove this decision-making process from the pollies who'll change their tack whenever they think it's expedient or believe it suits their game plan. We need oversight from a disinterested, non-aligned body/group who has the authority to make serious , cogent decisions not influenced by political pressures. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Mark:

.... : Us ! 

mark
mark from QLD commented:

pollies see this as a money pit it is not their money get it out of their control give it to an independent body perhaps Jeff Kennent might like to lead the new body 

Sandra
Sandra from QLD commented:

Independent body ,but who? ,How many money managers have cleaned people out of the invested moneys and no recall ?I don't government interference either so what to do ,to be honest Buggered if I know ,! 

Julie
Julie from QLD commented:

Time for standard of all our Political party members to be professional do the job they are well paid for ..I am sick of this preppy school yard point scoring they think is running our country ...time to inject some business minds into this as they and senior public servants are not qualified to balance and plan for the nations economy to ensure max projection ...dare I say Clive Palmer has made some interesting statements DEFINATELY as Jeff Kennett has stated take this away from the political environment urgently 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

Some major decisions will have to made by retirees as well as Governments. There is a demographic shift of fewer working people supporting more retirees. This has eroded capacity of governments to meet future payments. No one wants to pay more taxes So we the retires (now & future) have to accept some changes to: Count main residence for income support asset test esp if as it escapes CGT Tax super income streams above a certain level Look at family trusts which are clever ways of reducing tax bills 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

Exactly, we are too laid back, we must take charge of what is important for us, what is our livelihood, not let the politicians decide for us, it has so far proven that it is a recipe for disasters 

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