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What should grandparents get in return for giving their grandkids ‘free’ childcare?

What should grandparents get in return for giving their grandkids ‘free’ childcare?

As a doting grandparent who  helps provide more childcare than any other formal service in Australia should you be paid for your services by the government or your own children?

This intriguing question follows a new report into the grey army which each week  looks after 837,000 kids and weighs up the costs and the benefits for all parties.

While most do it for love a third of those in the survey, from the National Seniors Productive Ageing Centre, incurred extras costs such as food, transport and outings.

The report, which you can see in full here (link  http://www.nationalseniors.com.au/be-informed/research/publications/grandparents)  says:

“When making the decision to take on a regular care commitment, the grandparents in the study did not weigh up the financial costs and benefits: most had not even made any attempt to calculate the household outlays associated with their care. Rather, many thought it was a normal part of their grandparent role.”

It might be being normalised but the statistics suggest  half of grandparents want  the government to compensate them for the amount of care they provide. In Australia only three percent get paid.

It’s not so crazy. In South Korea grandparents are not only paid typically about $800 a month for childcare by their grateful children but they are, according to reports, demanding even more.

And recognition can come in different ways. In the UK for example there’s a system of carer credits to the public  age pension for grandparents providing such childcare.

The survey highlighted the direct costs of the caring commitment with 70% altering the days and shifts they worked, 55% reducing their hours and even 18% changing their jobs.

Also one third of respondents reported their childcare duties meant they had to change the timing or expected timing of their retirement.

Of course many reported enjoying looking after their kids’ kids but not after a certain amount of time. 

Interestingly there’s ‘tipping point’ of 13 or more hours a week when it all becomes less enjoyable and the impacts on work and retirement are ramped up.

The conclusion of the survey is that there’s a policy black hole with no recognition of the importance of grandparent childcare to the wellbeing of families, communities and the economy.

It suggests policy reform to help these carers make better choices and mitigate the impact of providing ‘free’ childcare on their incomes, retirement plans and ability to work.

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Paul
Paul from ACT commented:

Yep, when the Government slids child care payments to grandparents as well as creches it will say the welfare budget is over spent so they will cut the pensions of those greedy baby boomers in lieu of the dole cheats and the rest as it's an easy fix - sound like a cynic ? 

Jim
Jim from NSW commented:

Definite no, part of the problems today are caused by our children themselves, they build these mini mansions, 4 or 5 bedrooms, and only have a couple of kids,the houses are that big there isn't enough room for a garden partly because blocks of land are getting smaller. I know that this statement doesn't apply to everyone. I have looked after my grandchildren for about 17 years, it has enabled my children to have a better start in life than may have been possible, but I see no reason for other people's taxes to subsidise my children's good fortune. If there is spare money in the budget then give it to those people who need it most and that would be the pensioners who are living from hand to mouth each week, make it means tested for those most in need, for the record it wouldn't apply to me, so no hidden agenda from this old guy. 

Glenda
Glenda from NSW commented:

We have been minding grandchildren for thirteen years and we have never given a thought to being paid. Our reward is the love of our grandchildren. My late husband was the afternoon minder for two grandchildren for the early years when our daughter worked afternoon shift. After his passing I was able to change my working hours to suit minding the grandchildren. When I retired I minded the children when needed, took school age children to and from school. What a pleasure it is and how great it has been to have them around - they certainly kept me going when I lost my husband. They love to come and stay which I see as a plus. Monetary payment is not something I would consider - whether it be family or Government. 

Barbara
Barbara from QLD commented:

Firstly Gary D from NSW. I did complain to the then Centrelink about someone who is working from his home and collecting a disability pension. The only investigation involved was for him to produce some medical papers stating he can't work, and it was dropped. He repairs cars, changes tyres, rebuilds engines and has a nice little business going on the side. People are pissed off with him, and its sods like him that make it harder for the genuine person. As for taxing...or payments to child minding Grandparents, the Government can ill afford to do this. The only way they could is stop those getting payments and ripping off the system, then we would have enough to do this. Also I am none to happy about kids today who get paid to have kids. For crying out loud, you did not seek permission to have kids from the Government or the populous, so look after them yourself or don't have any. We brought up our 4 kids on about 2 pounds per month and that's all you got after the initial lump to assist in buying prams, cots, clothes etc. Each subsequent child was less and less as you were expected to use what you bought with the first child, no paid maternity leave for months on end, no extra handouts for child care, nothing, zilch, nada. Depend and rely on yourself to make it alone, because in the end, that's the only person you can trust. 

Felicity
Felicity from NSW commented:

Be responsible for your own children and pay your own way. Why should the taxpayer pay for your kids care, food and outings, pay for it yourself. After all if you are working you should be able to afford it, if not stop having children. What makes anyone think that the country can afford this. I am more than happy to mind my grandchildren and I don't expect the "government" to pay me. 

Evan
Evan from NSW commented:

Our 10 year old grandson is doing fine at home and at school. We help sometimes by picking him up from school and starting his homework . We love having him and don't want payment for something we love. Vicki and Evan NSW 

Greg
Greg from NSW commented:

As a retiree grandparent who loves being able to reduce the cost of formal child-care for our kids, we would love to receive some government credit or rebate for the time we give and what we spend whilst caring for them. We currently give one day and two afternoons per week as well as school holidays and it does restrict our retirement plans to a certain extent. We would still do it even if there was no government compensation, because we enjoy our time with them so much, but some financial recognition would certainly help. There would have to be strict controls to prevent rorting and abuse of the system however. Some formal standards would have to be developed re the 'quality' of the care. Greg NSW 

warren
warren from NSW commented:

We expect nothing from our children for looking after our grandchildren - it is a pleasure to share their lives and hopefully bring us closer to our grandchildren. Thanks to Mr Morrison our part pension will decline at the start of next year - not that we have much in assets and due to low interest rates very little in income but pensioners seem to be the 1st on their hit list - surely they must be other welfare recipients whose benefits could be looked at closely and probably could make a contribution to the economy as they are much younger than us - having worked for 45 years we feel we have made our contribution and it would be nice to not have to worry about being on the hit list to lose our small benefits - Kay NSW 

Jayne
Jayne from ACT commented:

Why should the taxpayers pay grandparents to look after their grandchildren. The parents should be compensating them for their time, not the taxpayer. Wake up Australia, we cannot afford another ridiculous payment like this. 

Lorraine
Lorraine from NSW commented:

This is absolutely ridiculous!!! Grandparents should not have to be child carers, they brought their own kids up and deserve their own time to do as they please. If part of that is offering to be child carers then that's their prerogative but no compensation should come from anyone but the child parents. If parents can't afford alternative child care then don't have the kids!!! Grandparents are also entitled to lives to spend doing things for themselves, not their selfish children. 

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