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What should grandparents get in return for giving their grandkids ‘free’ childcare?

What should grandparents get in return for giving their grandkids ‘free’ childcare?

As a doting grandparent who  helps provide more childcare than any other formal service in Australia should you be paid for your services by the government or your own children?

This intriguing question follows a new report into the grey army which each week  looks after 837,000 kids and weighs up the costs and the benefits for all parties.

While most do it for love a third of those in the survey, from the National Seniors Productive Ageing Centre, incurred extras costs such as food, transport and outings.

The report, which you can see in full here (link  http://www.nationalseniors.com.au/be-informed/research/publications/grandparents)  says:

“When making the decision to take on a regular care commitment, the grandparents in the study did not weigh up the financial costs and benefits: most had not even made any attempt to calculate the household outlays associated with their care. Rather, many thought it was a normal part of their grandparent role.”

It might be being normalised but the statistics suggest  half of grandparents want  the government to compensate them for the amount of care they provide. In Australia only three percent get paid.

It’s not so crazy. In South Korea grandparents are not only paid typically about $800 a month for childcare by their grateful children but they are, according to reports, demanding even more.

And recognition can come in different ways. In the UK for example there’s a system of carer credits to the public  age pension for grandparents providing such childcare.

The survey highlighted the direct costs of the caring commitment with 70% altering the days and shifts they worked, 55% reducing their hours and even 18% changing their jobs.

Also one third of respondents reported their childcare duties meant they had to change the timing or expected timing of their retirement.

Of course many reported enjoying looking after their kids’ kids but not after a certain amount of time. 

Interestingly there’s ‘tipping point’ of 13 or more hours a week when it all becomes less enjoyable and the impacts on work and retirement are ramped up.

The conclusion of the survey is that there’s a policy black hole with no recognition of the importance of grandparent childcare to the wellbeing of families, communities and the economy.

It suggests policy reform to help these carers make better choices and mitigate the impact of providing ‘free’ childcare on their incomes, retirement plans and ability to work.

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Sharolyn
Sharolyn commented:

You have got to be joking. Why on earth should the taxpayer be responsible for people's grandkids. The parents already get benefits from Family Allowances. This country has got to get real, we are in deep sh!t the last thing we need is for another burden on the government purse. I know in past generations the women didn't work so this wasn't an issue, but in past generations the family alsosupported each other, so this is just an example of where this will have to happen again. Get over this entitlement mentality before the country goes broke!! 

Garry D
Garry D from NSW commented:

Clean up the welfare rorts first then lets have a discussion about what to do with the money saved - I don't think that the grandparents should be paid other than from the pockets of their kids. 

Peter
Peter from NSW commented:

We do not require to be paid child carers but it would be good. However leaving my part pension alone would be due consideration instead. Already had my part pension reduced by $200 pf by Abbott government ( from 1/1/16) and my assets are only $50,000 ( excluding family house) as usual vulnerable groups are easy prey for government cutbacks, even after promise of no change to pensions. However governments need to make child care services available at a reasonable cost. This is main problem, parents need to wait for years to secure a child care position, then pay exorbitant costs. Then the pressure on grandparents would not be limited to 5 days a week. This is where the government priority lies and not use grandparents as cheap, penalised scapegoats. 

Carol
Carol from NSW commented:

What did those parents get that $5,000 for. You have kids you look after them. If Gran wants to thats fine but not at my expense. I can't believe what everyone thinks the Govt. should pay for these days. Come January 1st a lot of us will be losing our part pensions - WHO ARE WE GOING TO ASK TO TOP UP OUR LOSS. 

Di
Di from QLD commented:

I definitely do not expect to be paid to mind my grandchild by either the government or my children. 

Jenny
Jenny from QLD replied to Di:

I'm with you Di. We look after our grandchildren 3 times a week, sometimes more, but we offer and do not expect to get paid for it from either the government or our children. 

Mike
Mike from NSW commented:

As grandparents my wife and I don't expect any payment from Government for simply helping out our family. Childcare costs are prohibitive and how the young marrieds of today are expected to work, pay off a mortgage, run a car or two and provide clothes, school fees and food for their families, is tough and getting tougher. No, I don't want a Government subsidy for just helping to spend time with the grandkids who we love very much. The welfare supported adults do it a lot easier. Everything seems to be subsidised, but as self funded retirees, we're behind the eight ball with interest rates so low that you can buy a house, but superannuation funds have little growth so you get further and further behind. 

lynton
lynton from VIC commented:

only under exceptional circumstances should grandparents or family babysitters get any reward. to even consider it would be the greatest chance for many to just rort the system and get paid for services which often they would not even perform. i'm not directing this at genuine grand parents but you only have to look at what occurs through centrelink in the various areas they provide monetary assistance. if you are going to do it then it should be applicable only to those oldies on pensions and make the payment an addition to the pension or further subsidise the power, gas and rates discounts that pensioners receive 

Denise
Denise from NSW commented:

Why does everything come at a cost. I love looking after my grandchildren, the same as my mother, when she was able, spent time with my children. 

Karen
Karen from NSW commented:

Absolutely NOT. If there is a shortfall in income vs expenses as a result of Grandparents taking care of their grandchildren, they should take it up with the child's parents i.e. their own son or daughter. I am getting fed up with people continually going to the Government with their hands out for more money. We simply cannot afford this sort of stupid welfare. Parents have a responsibility to provide for their children under the age of 18. If parents cannot afford childcare, or choose not to use what is available (or there is none available), then, in the absence of the ability to stay home and look after their own child, a suitable alternative arrangement has to be made. If this involves Grandparents and the cost of looking after the grandchild/ren is a potential issue for the Grandparents it MUST be part of that discussion and appropriate recompense agreed. It is nothing to do with the Government nor should it be. EVER! 

Pam
Pam from NSW commented:

Wow, so many comments.!! I would love to be able to retire and help out with my grandchildren more. I still work full time to support myself, single Mum, and I was lucky enough to have my parents around to help me out with my children. I was able to help them out sometimes with money as well, not much admittedly but buy some food and help out with bills every now and then was a great help to them. I know of others who look after their grandchildren and don't get paid for it and I know that the extra money would help them out as well. If you can look after them in a safe and loving family environment they will grow up to be better adults. Day care is so expensive, I don't know how some people make ends meet. Maybe the government should look at giving more funding to the day care facilities. - Nanny from NSW 

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