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What should grandparents get in return for giving their grandkids ‘free’ childcare?

What should grandparents get in return for giving their grandkids ‘free’ childcare?

As a doting grandparent who  helps provide more childcare than any other formal service in Australia should you be paid for your services by the government or your own children?

This intriguing question follows a new report into the grey army which each week  looks after 837,000 kids and weighs up the costs and the benefits for all parties.

While most do it for love a third of those in the survey, from the National Seniors Productive Ageing Centre, incurred extras costs such as food, transport and outings.

The report, which you can see in full here (link  http://www.nationalseniors.com.au/be-informed/research/publications/grandparents)  says:

“When making the decision to take on a regular care commitment, the grandparents in the study did not weigh up the financial costs and benefits: most had not even made any attempt to calculate the household outlays associated with their care. Rather, many thought it was a normal part of their grandparent role.”

It might be being normalised but the statistics suggest  half of grandparents want  the government to compensate them for the amount of care they provide. In Australia only three percent get paid.

It’s not so crazy. In South Korea grandparents are not only paid typically about $800 a month for childcare by their grateful children but they are, according to reports, demanding even more.

And recognition can come in different ways. In the UK for example there’s a system of carer credits to the public  age pension for grandparents providing such childcare.

The survey highlighted the direct costs of the caring commitment with 70% altering the days and shifts they worked, 55% reducing their hours and even 18% changing their jobs.

Also one third of respondents reported their childcare duties meant they had to change the timing or expected timing of their retirement.

Of course many reported enjoying looking after their kids’ kids but not after a certain amount of time. 

Interestingly there’s ‘tipping point’ of 13 or more hours a week when it all becomes less enjoyable and the impacts on work and retirement are ramped up.

The conclusion of the survey is that there’s a policy black hole with no recognition of the importance of grandparent childcare to the wellbeing of families, communities and the economy.

It suggests policy reform to help these carers make better choices and mitigate the impact of providing ‘free’ childcare on their incomes, retirement plans and ability to work.

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Christie
Christie from QLD commented:

Depends on the Grandparents personal finances. If childcare is asked of the grandparents on a regular basis (ie: so that both parents can work ) then parents should insist that the grandparents accept some payment. This is taking RESPONSIBLITY for their children. Workout what extra cost grandparents may incur ie: food, petrol, electric, outings. It will still be cheaper than sending kids to before and after school care and having the knowledge their children are with family members and in a better controlled environment. 

Linda
Linda from NSW commented:

WOW! What happened to reality. Shocking that Australians think the government should pay for everything. The government didn't bring those kids into this world. No it was your children's choice to have kids and not be prepared. So it also their responsibility to look after their kids till they are old enough or pay like we did with no extra money from the government but only $22.00 a fortnight for Child Endowment payment from the government. Wouldn't it be a disaster if they had to try our system. Whether it be the grandparents or daycare this is simply your responsibility because you didn't sleep with the government you made those children of your own free will so need to have a plan. The more this generation sucks from the government the worse Australia will get. This is "money for nothing". Why should my taxes pay for other people to have children when it could be doing better things for our country. You can only imagine how much better off we would be if this astronomical amount of money was not given away.I look after my grandchildren because I want to like my mother did and my mothers mother did. That's right Ann tell them to stand on their own feet. Many Australians need to get their heads right here and think back some years. We all got by. 

Robert
Robert from NSW commented:

Just today I checked my e-way toll tag account, visited our G/daughter Thursday, tolls to and from cost us $24.28, now if we do this 2 or 3 times a week, how often can we be able to do this plus the cost of petrol, it would be more than $100 + per week 

lynton
lynton from VIC replied to Robert:

Robert I have made my own comment but must agree with you re cost of visiting using tolls, we live in Victoria so our tolls aren't as bad as nsw but agree that's something that should be looked at. not sure if you are a pensioner, I am and would love to see toll costs reduced for those on a pension, they are a killer. 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to lynton:

Hi Lynton, yes we are pensioners, so we have to be careful where we spend our Pension dollar 

Serge
Serge from NSW commented:

depending on each family circumstances, there should be a means test, so that the families that need it most get looked after. 

Alexander
Alexander from WA commented:

As someone who did not have the love of grandparents due to death or distance (Europe). I eagerly look forward to share my time with my grandchildren. My wish is that I am in the same location as my grandchildren as they grow. As for those who want the Government to sudsidize their time and ongoing cost it should be in the form of vouchers for, food, Electricity and other utilies. I do not want government to pay me to look after my grandchildren tbe privilige of looking after is payment enough. Alex W.A. 

ian
ian from NSW commented:

when are we going to stop asking the government to pay for everything!! look after your own kids or don't have them. I don't remember my grandparents asking for any compensation for the odd times that they looked after us.as kids or me and my wife doing the same for our grandchildren It was fun!! Ian nsw 

Joseph
Joseph from QLD commented:

Its a blessing that you are able to provide care for our 3 grand kids. We are building a strong relationship and there is a lot of love between us. However, there is a cost and not being a self funded retiree, I think Centrelink should increase the threshold of the income we can earn without it affecting our age pension. We do not need an additional payment but should be given the opportunity to earn it. 

Steve
Steve from NSW commented:

I hear it all. My wife and now have parental responsibility for three our our grandchildren 11, 4 and 10 months. We had them placed November 2014. We are full time parents again at 63 and 61. and Centrelink deem us to be Foster carers. Whilst we get a nominal payment from FACS NSW we are paid approx $400 from Centrelink because of means testing the Grandparents which is my biggest bugbear. If I did what all the other cheats did and told C Link that we were separated my wife would get the unmarried pothers pension. No Pension Card like the Unwed ones, Wife gives up work to care for the kids, Romantic attachment to the washing machine and ironing board, additoinal food bills electricity gas etc. I could go on and on. Kill the means testing and pay the Grandmother what they pay the unmarried mothers pension to compensate for all our loss of freedom and sanity 

Judy
Judy from NSW commented:

Honestly, What is this country coming to! This should be a private arrangement between the family. It doesn't have to be money- lawn mowing, gutter cleaning, help with the heavy tasks around the house etc. And before anyone thinks I'm wealthy, I was a single mum on a bank tellers wage, no family nearby & no help from the father. I took full responsibility for all care & welfare, and am blessed to have lovely grandchildren to visit. Any help I give them comes from love AND the natural way a family should respond to each other. Leave me out of the Nanny-State, please! 

Rob
Rob from VIC commented:

It's a pleasure so I don't require any monies to look after my 4 g/kids ( soon to be 5 ) Just get the Govt to leave my pension alone or at least "grandfather" existing pensioners as they did to themselves when they changed their OWN supn 

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