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Retire Overseas? Don’t be fooled by the falling dollar it can still make sense

Retire Overseas? Don’t be fooled by the falling dollar it can still make sense

With the rising cost of living in Australia more retirees are eyeing up the much lower costs and what can be comparable health care standards of South East Asia.

The push is also fuelled by concerns about the inadequacy of average superannuation balances to provide for a comfortable retirement and tighter eligibility conditions around pensions.

While the value of the Aussie dollar has plummeted against the US $ the good news for such ‘Silver Surfers’ is that it has more than held its own against the currencies of popular destinations such as Malaysia and Indonesia.

The options on our geographical doorstep are certainly tempting. In Vietnam and Cambodia Aussie retirees can live like kings or queens cheaply on tourist visas.

There are greying communities in Thailand’s Phuket island and also Bali. Some live in gated communities away from the crowds and others in units in the very thick of it.

In Malaysia there’s even special ten-year ‘My Second Home’ renewable visas. You must be over 50, put $32,000 into a long term bond and buy a property above $325,000 .

Many dreaming of this kind of retirement, given the increasing costs of living in Australia, may have been put off  making plans given the plunging value of A$.

But Stephen Wyatt, who with his wife Colleen Ryan, wrote the key book on the subject Sell Up, Pack Up and Take Off says our dollar has more than held its own against some Asian currencies.

It’s up against the Malaysian ringgit and the Indonesia rupiah meaning the already substantially lower costs in those nations are cheaper still.

“There’s a natural hedge which benefits Australian retirees,” Stephen says. “ Malaysia and Indonesia like Australia are resource rich economies. When prices go down for resources so do both our and their currencies which means the relative low costs there remain.”

Even in Thailand where the baht is a bit higher he quotes rents in regional Chang Mai as being 75% less than Australia and throughout the SE Asian region meals, beers and groceries being similarly low.

Stephen, whose website www.planet-boomer.com has more information,  says despite the consumer price index in Australia indicating prices are steady more older people are feeling the pinch.

There are however two key issues to consider before you head off to the airport and bid the family a fond farewell. They are medical standards and pension restrictions.

In Malaysia, where English is most widely spoken, there are top class and affordable hospitals and medical centres in particular in the big cities.

But you need to choose carefully as the conditions in such facilities are not universally high.

If you are eligible for the pension check out how long you can remain overseas and continue to get paid. You also need to do your homework around super and tax issues.

The majority of Australian retirees who leave the country still go to nations like Italy and Greece. And only 700 of the 28,000 people taking up the Malaysian retirement visa are Australia.

But the tide seems to be turning with more older Australians both considering and taking up the option of living at least part of their retirement where there money goes much further.

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murray
murray from WA commented:

yes i would retire in asia.. but be very very careful a good mate has bee stung compliments of centrelink. he visited thailand numerous times then come back to australia at 64 got job worked past 65 and got a part pension. he had a minor work accident (he was 65 1/2 at the time ofm the accident)and received a $40,000 work accident. his pension was stopped for approx six months as part of the payout was regarded as income. he went to Thailand and returned after 6 months.m he had to apply for the pension all over again. he made the mistake of putting a Thai address as his place of residence. his pension was denied unless he stayed in Australia for 2 years continuously. if goes out side Australia the 2 years starts all over again. he is currently appealing the decision. they regard you as living overseas and only coming back to australia to get the pension!!!!! centrelink said there would be no problem regarding his thai travel. so again be get everything in writing and get the name of the name of the person who gives you any information. almost all asian countries have no pension arrangements with australia.. im dont understand this ruling and i dont think centrelink staff do!!!! the international part of centrelink is in tasmania. so you have to deal with them via phone or your local centrelink. the 6 week ruling involves the loss of about $30 per week off your pension. again get as much info you can via the net or centrelink before you make any move outside of australia. and then double check. dont listen to bar banter while on holidays overseas... 

Joan
Joan from VIC commented:

Totally agree with Jim from NSW, I've spent a lot of time in various places in SE Asia, and personally experienced the medical system, certainly on par with anywhere in Australia, and cheaper. If Australians weren't so narrow minded, they would see that there are many places in the world that ARE just as good as Aus. It's not the lucky country it used to be. 

Carol
Carol from NSW commented:

If it is so good overseas why is everyone breaking their necks to get to Australia. 

Ron
Ron from QLD replied to Carol:

Could Carol please provide the reference information, which indicates or even suggests everyone is breaking their necks to get to Australia. 

Betty
Betty from NSW commented:

No, like Barbara, Australia for me. Sorry, I don't like the idea of moving overseas unless one had a lot of money and could afford, once gone, to come back. If you strike a medical problem, Australia (Medicare) doesn't cover you, you have to look into the Standard of medical treatment in the country you are wishing to retire to. My brother went to the Philippines, he is happy but now has struck medical problems he didn't count on and can't afford to come back to Australia. Also the procurement of Pharmaceuticals, you don't have the system we have here, once out, you can't claim and you cant get someone to get them in your name and send them to you. That is illegal anyway. Also the medications - even over the counter ones - are very expensive. It is these things that people in their older years are not factoring in when moving and basically even when you come back to Australia that you have to wait I understand before getting another Medicare card. Don't look at the so-called rosy picture, look at the little things that you take for granted and ask yourself can I get them where I am moving to. Some parts of Asia probably yes, but others - you pay highly. As James says - do your homework - thoroughly - before jumping in. Even though you may enjoy good health now, it only takes one thing medically to upset the whole picture. 

James
James from NSW commented:

I did some preliminary searching on centrelink international website. You can still get a pension if Australia has reciprocal social security arrangements with that country. At the moment there are 29 countries included in this arrangement. Most of them are European countries with USA getting a mention. No Asian countries as I could see. They did say however that they are in negotiations with other countries but didn't say who those countries were. Surprisingly the agreement with UK expired in 2001. Do your homework first before jumping in. 

barbara
barbara from NSW commented:

no never I love Australia 

John
John from QLD commented:

Have lived in Asia and UK and loved it. I would consider retiring overseas if life in Australia becomes too costly or over-governed. 

Emmanuel
Emmanuel from VIC commented:

Although for a while it will be paradise. When the need for medical attention is required, nothing will be as helpful as been treated in Australia. When crunch time comes, one will need to sell his or her jewellery to pay for medical attention. Sorry, Australia for me. 

pamela
pamela commented:

What about new zealand can aussies live there? :) 

Margaret
Margaret from ACT replied to pamela:

Yes, we have reciprocal arrangements with NZ and Australians can get benefits there. They actually have a better health system - for example, any accident, doesn't have to be work related, you get total cost from WINZ, you can live permanently there if you wish to do so without hassles and you can even vote in their elections once you've lived in NZ for two years. But ... would you want to go to a foreign country where you know nobody, have no social network, family and friends around, and start all over again as an oldie? Not for me! Hard enough in Australia to establish some sort of social life in a new place, imagine how much harder it would be in Malaysia, Thailand or Bali when you don't even speak the language! Maybe a fun adventure if you are a couple, but sheesh, when you are a single, it's just not a good idea! 

pamela
pamela replied to Margaret:

Hi margaret, thankyou for your response & your right It would be extreme to make a new life in NZ, have been on my own for over 20 yrs, & thiñking about my retirement im bored with life here & crave excitement as ive recently been diagnosed with parkinsons life has dealt me another blow as retirement is a few years òf will give it some thought, many thanks pamela d 

Frank
Frank from QLD commented:

I own a condo in the Philippines all paid for iam out of Australia when I retire 

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