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Retire Overseas? Don’t be fooled by the falling dollar it can still make sense

Retire Overseas? Don’t be fooled by the falling dollar it can still make sense

With the rising cost of living in Australia more retirees are eyeing up the much lower costs and what can be comparable health care standards of South East Asia.

The push is also fuelled by concerns about the inadequacy of average superannuation balances to provide for a comfortable retirement and tighter eligibility conditions around pensions.

While the value of the Aussie dollar has plummeted against the US $ the good news for such ‘Silver Surfers’ is that it has more than held its own against the currencies of popular destinations such as Malaysia and Indonesia.

The options on our geographical doorstep are certainly tempting. In Vietnam and Cambodia Aussie retirees can live like kings or queens cheaply on tourist visas.

There are greying communities in Thailand’s Phuket island and also Bali. Some live in gated communities away from the crowds and others in units in the very thick of it.

In Malaysia there’s even special ten-year ‘My Second Home’ renewable visas. You must be over 50, put $32,000 into a long term bond and buy a property above $325,000 .

Many dreaming of this kind of retirement, given the increasing costs of living in Australia, may have been put off  making plans given the plunging value of A$.

But Stephen Wyatt, who with his wife Colleen Ryan, wrote the key book on the subject Sell Up, Pack Up and Take Off says our dollar has more than held its own against some Asian currencies.

It’s up against the Malaysian ringgit and the Indonesia rupiah meaning the already substantially lower costs in those nations are cheaper still.

“There’s a natural hedge which benefits Australian retirees,” Stephen says. “ Malaysia and Indonesia like Australia are resource rich economies. When prices go down for resources so do both our and their currencies which means the relative low costs there remain.”

Even in Thailand where the baht is a bit higher he quotes rents in regional Chang Mai as being 75% less than Australia and throughout the SE Asian region meals, beers and groceries being similarly low.

Stephen, whose website www.planet-boomer.com has more information,  says despite the consumer price index in Australia indicating prices are steady more older people are feeling the pinch.

There are however two key issues to consider before you head off to the airport and bid the family a fond farewell. They are medical standards and pension restrictions.

In Malaysia, where English is most widely spoken, there are top class and affordable hospitals and medical centres in particular in the big cities.

But you need to choose carefully as the conditions in such facilities are not universally high.

If you are eligible for the pension check out how long you can remain overseas and continue to get paid. You also need to do your homework around super and tax issues.

The majority of Australian retirees who leave the country still go to nations like Italy and Greece. And only 700 of the 28,000 people taking up the Malaysian retirement visa are Australia.

But the tide seems to be turning with more older Australians both considering and taking up the option of living at least part of their retirement where there money goes much further.

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Noel
Noel from NSW commented:

No, Australia's my choice of country having emigrated from the UK in the 70s. 

Phil
Phil from QLD commented:

Why retire in Australia !!!!! when my dollars goes SO much more and better health services, Come On Aussie, think long term !!!!!!! as I will be going overseas soon :-) 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Phil:

Goodbye. 

James
James from NSW commented:

I understand and Thankyou for your comments and advice. With my wife's family having enough land to build a small home for us, I believe safety is not a concern. Certainly health and hospitals do come into play and consideration but due to the western lifestyle degenerating as it is, and many of us being priced out of existence my consideration for moving overseas is high on my priority list. I used to have the same view that Australia was the one and only place to ever be. The last 10 years have changed that view and I see this country struggling to support us later in life. I have 7 years to really decide but I am 75% gone already 

Wayne
Wayne from VIC commented:

Given current uncertainty and instability re government and decision makers in Australia nothing should've ruled including relocating OS It is good to have viable options available 

andrew
andrew from QLD commented:

What you say does make a lot of sense, but there are many things to consider, safety, food, lifestyle, finding an area where there are other foreigner's, and complying with sometimes onerous visa conditions. I have lived in, or spent time in many se Asian countries and believe me it can be a minefield. Do your research carefully before taking the plunge. 

michael
michael from NSW commented:

not sure overseas is the answer when you are elderly.doctors and hospital are far better in aus 

John
John from NSW commented:

I have worked for 42 years, paid my taxes, brought my children up in this country and paid into superannuation since the 80's. I don't intend leaving and am disappointed I will not be in a position to retire in another 5 years without drawing a part pension. My super fund even recommends people move overseas in retirement, which is basically suggesting my investments are not going to cover costs. I am prepared to live a bit more cheaply and live here with family, thanks. Who knows, we may even get some babysitting "pocket money". 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to John:

Can you tell us the Super Fund that recommends you move from Australia? 

John
John from NSW replied to Warren:

I am with Sun Super and in their last member magazine, which I threw out in despair, provided information on the top five destinations to retire to. It started with Chiang Mai, Thailand and, from memory then went to Malaysia, Spain, Panama, and Phillipines, perhaps not in that order. All fine places, I am sure, but I would have hoped for more confidence and encouragement that I could look forward to retirement in Australia. I know they are only providing advice on how to make your dollar stretch but it is not a prospect that most people I know will take up. They did throw in a sixth suggestion to the Sunshine Coast region for those that want to stay here, almost like an afterthought, so I suppose that was something. 

gordon
gordon from NSW commented:

Even if i was reduced to sleeping on the streets I'd never live any where else and I've been to a lot of countries the sunburnt country is the greatest show on earth 

James
James from NSW commented:

I am certainly considering retiring in Vietnam. My wife is from there, her family have a simple but stable lifestyle. It certainly is much much cheaper than living here in Oz. The only problem is how am I able to keep my pension? Seems I can stay here and live like a pauper or go overseas and live a very comfortable life. From what I have read Australia will not allow me to stay overseas and get the pension indefinitely. Why not? I have worked for 40 years or more and am entitled to the pension. Other countries allow their retirees to live overseas and still collect the pension. Can anybody enlighten me as to what I am entitled to if I do live overseas? 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to James:

Ring Centrelink, hang on for 2 hours, and ask them. 

sonja
sonja from NSW commented:

Canada is another option (obviously further away than Asia) but real estate is much cheaper than in Australia , cost of living is slightly less expensive than here (groceries etc) . Our dollar is more or less same value . It is also a Commonwealth Country & moving there doesn't require the conditions of some neighbouring countries ! Canadians & Australians have a lot in common (lifestyle/culture) etc ! The one obstacle could be the cold weather in winter in certain regions ! 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to sonja:

Lovely country, beautiful people but I found cost of living the same. 

sonja
sonja from NSW replied to Warren:

Yes ! You're right in some aspects ! I found groceries (including fruit /vegies etc) much cheaper especially when dollar value more or less same ! Selling a property here , would buy two in Canada & there 's a good financial outcome ! I couldn't believe the prices of units as well as houses ! Certainly not available in Metropolitan Sydney & other well thought of suburbs there ! Renting is also much cheaper , not to mention the electricity bill !!! 

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