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Power bills still hurting, amid fears they’ll go higher and lack of trust in pollies to fix them

Power bills still hurting, amid fears they’ll go higher and lack of trust in pollies to fix them

Hardship has trumped energy efficiency as the most common way to keep power bills affordable this winter, according to the current FiftyUp Club energy poll available here

Asked to choose up to three strategies you’re using to keep bills down, 80% said turning off powerpoints and lights, and 58% are foregoing the heater, even though you’re cold.

“I'm going around my neighbourhood & looking for old wood to burn in my fireplace,” said one member in our forum.

This is compared to 39% who bought energy efficient appliances and 29% each for either buying solar panels or switching suppliers.

Just four per cent claimed they did nothing as they could afford the bills.

The findings are very timely as a legal battle begins in NSW that will have consequences for the entire country in the months to come.

The Australian Competition Tribunal is currently hearing challenges from the NSW state-owned electricity networks to proposed July 1 price cuts, and we'll be campaigning to make your voice heard in the deliberations.

Click here to take our 2-minute survey if you haven’t yet done so

The FiftyUp Club will then put together a submission for the tribunal on behalf of Australians over 50, who tend to be disproportionately impacted by higher power prices.

Very few of us seem to believe the politicians when they say power prices will go down.

Almost 70% feared electricity would rise significantly and 14% hoped for a smaller increase. Only 5% thought prices would be stable and 12% that they might even come down.

There was overwhelming support of 79% for the Australian Energy Regulator's proposal for drastic cost savings to consumers – up to a $300 a year for some households.

Almost 19% said their support  would depend on if there safeguards for workers.

Perhaps most interesting for students of consumer behaviour was much greater trust in the market and competition to contain power prices than the traditional champions of government and regulators.

Some 52% said the market looked after their interests with lower prices and better service ahead of the regulators such as the AER. Federal and state governments got scores of under 10% each.

When it comes to disconnection, a fate which befell nearly 33,000 households in NSW in 2013-14 thanks to unpaid bills, only 1% have actually been cut-off.  But we do wonder how many have had to do what this member has to pay their bills:

“Just can't afford to pay the bills. Spouse is still working at 71 and we still can't make ends meet. Have to frequently ask for extended time on electricity, phone, rates, water rates. Barely enough left for food.”

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Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

Want to pay LESS for your electricity? Join THIS campaign: http://www.johnkaye.org.au/campaigns/no-power-privatisation/ 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

Professor John Quiggin, an economist at the University of Queensland, says the notion of ‘asset recycling’ is “dishonest” because the proceeds from the sale will be used “to build things that won’t generate an income”, such as roads, hospitals and schools. “The government then has to find a way of replacing the income lost from the assets, so they’re no better off than if they’d funded the new proposal using debt,” he says. Economist and former NSW Treasury official Dr Betty Con Walker agrees, calling Mike Baird’s plan “a crazy, tricky proposal”. Her husband, Sydney University emeritus professor of accounting Bob Walker, added: “Every academic I speak to says they [the NSW government] are just fiddling the figures. Every person in a suit says it’s crazy, but I’ll buy a share in it.” Long-standing critics of infrastructure privatisation, Professor and Dr Walker have penned a 39-page report that argues the asset sale is bad policy. They argue that, at current 10-year bond rates, borrowing to fund the new infrastructure would cost the government “a fraction” of the $1.7 billion that would be lost in annual income by selling the poles and wires. So why are they so intent on selling the poles and wires? Before going into politics, Mr Baird worked as an investment banker at NAB – a bank that specialises in funding private infrastructure projects, which may give him a pro-privatisation bias. “There is a very sharp cultural divide between the big end of town – the people who work in the CBD, business people, the finance sector, politicians of both parties who want privatisation even though they don’t always know why – and essentially everybody else who hates privatisation,” says Professor Quiggin. (.../... 1 of 2 ) 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

(Continued 2of 2) He goes on to make a more damning allegation which, if true, should raise serious concerns about the government’s motivation. “Within the pro camp, you have some genuine ideologues, some economists, who seriously believe privatisation will improve the operation of these assets. “But you also have a bunch of people who know there’s a good deal of money to be made. That includes most of the politicians involved, because if they manage a successful privatisation they’ll go on to highly-paid jobs in the private sector after politics.” Given the electricity networks bring the state government an income of at least $1.7 billion a year, economists argue it would make more financial sense to hang on to them and fund the new infrastructure by borrowing at record low interest rates (currently as low as 2.9 per cent p.a.). (The Newdaily) 

Yvonne
Yvonne from QLD commented:

Yes, I changed to Click Energy and am not happy with their billing system I pay by automatic payment and can' see where I am getting my discounts, thinking very strongly of changing to another provider. 

Pamela
Pamela from NSW commented:

Sorry if I sound cynical..I am a single pensioner, pay rent, shop Aldi (including my vino..most important), gave up smoking 6 years ago, eat well..love my food and cooking for family and friends..my electricity bills are between $130 and $150 per quarter, go to the hairdresser six weekly..have some nice clothes,etc... Do not possess a bank card but am the queen of the lay bys...I am 70 and in good health and at the end of each pay week always have $'s left over..not many some weeks but still in the black.. Do not have a car but have an Opal card. I live in the lucky Country!!!! And no I do not have superannuation. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Pamela:

Good on you, Pamela,good to know some are happy, as in the good old days! Would you say that by the fact that you -possibly- do not pay rental monies, nor have a car, help you at keeping a 'livable' budget? Thanks Pam 

Pamela
Pamela from NSW commented:

Yes I do pay rent..$510 per fortnight..and yes I am very fortunate that it is a reasonable rent..and not owning a car is a definite plus..the most I pay for bus, train and ferry is $2.50 per day and no parking stress or fees. Have a great day!!! 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

Lack of trust in pollies? Read today (REUTERS Thursd the 15th of June 2015): An international deal to combat climate change is meant to be agreed in December but a meeting in Bonn, Germany, last week ended with little progress towards an agreement to keep average temperature rises within 2C. The proposed emissions cuts from 2020 offered by governments so far are unlikely to meet the 2C goal, a threshold scientists say is the limit beyond which the world will suffer ever worsening floods, droughts, storms and rising seas. Based on proposals submitted to the United Nations, and energy policies in countries that have yet to produce plans, the amount of emissions the world can produce if it has a 50 percent chance of keeping to 2C will be exceeded by 2040 - just eight months later than if there were no proposals, the IEA said. "If stronger action is not forthcoming after 2030, the path ... would be consistent with an average temperature increase of around 2.6C by 2100 and 3.5C after 2200," it added. Governments need to set conditions that will achieve an early peak in global energy-related emissions, and review their commitments every five years, the Paris-based IEA said. Global energy-related emissions could peak by 2020 if energy efficiency is improved; the construction of new coal plants is banned; investment in renewables is increased to $400 billion in 2030 from $270 billion in 2014; methane emissions are reduced and fossil fuel subsidies are phased out by 2030. "These measures have profound implications for the global energy mix, putting a brake on growth in oil and coal use within the next five years and further boosting renewables," the agency said. 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

Where do you get this crap from? You alone are the major contributor to the methane emission problem!! 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Warren:

From "Reuters" by a Nina Chestney in a place by the name of LONDON, today on June 15 : Countries' current pledges for greenhouse gas cuts will fail to achieve a peak in energy-related emissions by 2030 and likely result in a temperature rise of 2.6 degrees Celsius by the end of the century, the International Energy Agency said on Monday. 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

No doubt we'll all cook then. I'll just take off a jumper. Just love the heat. I note in the last 15 years, no change. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Warren:

u r not a farmer in the Walgett region I will guess 

Alain
Alain from NSW commented:

I recommend you join the new One Big Switch campaign, like I did: they're looking for 10,000 households to join their campaign and send a message that we want lower power prices.They'll use our people power to lobby retailers and the state government for a long-overdue cut to power bills in NSW. 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

Who is happy with the sale in NSW of our Poles and Wires -many of you rubber stamped- to a foreign company (Chinese, perhaps since the "farm" Australia is now entirely on the market...)? The power networks senior management salary bill which would be expected to grow from its current $4.4 million a year to something much greater than the Victorian company's $8 million, given the much larger revenues and employee numbers. If the salaries matched their Victorian counter-parts in proportion to the revenue of the companies, the remuneration of ten senior executives would grow to $39 million a year, a nine-fold growth. However, it is likely that salaries would only increase in the first instance a factor of two or three. 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

I am. My bet is the ACTU/Unions via their Investment arm IFM will be in the bidding like they did with NSW Ports. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Warren:

without Unions we would work 24/7 for peanuts, but since we are not the monkeys rich bosses believe we are... 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

You wanted the obnoxious bunch at the helm, you have now got them and your budget for gas is now going to have to increase dramatically, thanks to Ian Macfarlane who refuses to put a domestic reserve aside for our domestic use (selling all we possess at inflated prices to the rest of the world) and insists on having our farmers (in NSW, in particular) go the American way, he wants them to sacrifice their land and water tables to extract the gas underneath by the dangerous methods as now revealed in the USA, fracking the rock, etc... . This government wants you to pay the same price as the price the North Asia region is going to pay for their unlimited and guaranteed supply of our gas. You wanted the Libs, you have got them and they are going to make you pay, they will make sure that the big end of town gets richer and the rest of you (a very very large majority) gets a lot lot poorer. 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

... and it is not 'cause Warren and his mates coalition voters gave us this obnoxious government that we cannot -as he would want it- complain about it... 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

This does not make any sense. It one short sentence, what is your problem? 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Warren:

in one short sentence? Abbott's voters are my problem and that problem should also be yours,should be all of us' problem, including his non0apologetic voters -so far- if you, they had a "conscience", the fast disappearing quality amongst Aussies... 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

Some Australian households are paying up to $1000 a year before they even turn on their electricity or gas. Why? Supply charges. These daily fees for being connected to the grid have more than doubled in 5 years in some parts of Australia and are now among the highest in the world, two recent stories have warned.*/** * "$1000 Power Shock", Herald Sun, 7 February, 2015 **"Aussie Power Bills startingly higher than overseas", The New Daily, 12 February 2015 WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT, YOURSELVES, JUST WHINGING? 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

Attention Mr C Zinn. Sorry to provide this as an open letter, but you don’t apparently provide any feedback segment on this site. I’m totally dismayed at the ability of 1 individual to openly and fragrantly take over the FiftyUpClub ‘News’ segment without any adherence to your ‘Moderation Policy’. Most of his/her comments are bannered as ‘anonymous’ but obviously source by 1 nutter. It certainly lowers the FiftyupClub as a valued Senior Citizen site in my opinion. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Warren:

You nasty "dobber" (Abbott and his nasty ministers succeeded there...) : why don't you argue in here your opinion rather than shoot the messenger with each and evry one of your comments??? Running out of arguments??? All the topics I tackle on 50+ Club' conversation platform are current issues, created for most of them by a government (both at State and Federal levels, when it comes to NSW) whose fascist and inhumane approach makes it difficult for any decent human being to accept their exactions, their crimes. It is not because some of you are responsible for the enthroning of the obnoxious team of bigots running a named and shamed country (the world over) that you should not defend your opinion, as I do it myself. Now I could also realize that helping others in the need is not the forte of my fellow Aussies from the right side of politics (my attempt at creating a ?Carole's fund" for her power bill/fire wood) , "greedy" is certainly another characteristic of the numerous fascists in here, whose lives must be miserable judging b the lack not only of compassion but also of a humorist approach to their of comments, when warranted: you are an appalling lot of old farts, Warren (I am referring to your many insulting comments) who are dragging the country and this wonderful platform into the cemetery of your boring and destructive lives (for others).. 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

...and Mr Zinn, he will talk for himself, but he is certainly more clever than you lot, more clever than you would have him reply to your stupid request: he knows what you are all about, short of any solid argumentation in front of the FACTS I relay to this forum... 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

...my relatives were interned in a concentration camp by the German during WWII and this happened 'cause of a "DOBBER" like you are, Warren, in a European village, just think about the consequences of dobbing randomly someone who like me is trying to expose the politician YOU put where he is and is condemned for his incompetence and clowning (would be funny if was not pathetic) by the entire -planet (reports available upon request): I feel that it is my right to denounce him and his government, you can always argue in an ethical and composed manner that I am wrong in substantiating your claim, but you have so far failed miserably... 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

You don't make any sense. 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

You do make any sense. 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

No one dobs on his mates - and you're not my mate. 

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