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Power bills still hurting, amid fears they’ll go higher and lack of trust in pollies to fix them

Power bills still hurting, amid fears they’ll go higher and lack of trust in pollies to fix them

Hardship has trumped energy efficiency as the most common way to keep power bills affordable this winter, according to the current FiftyUp Club energy poll available here

Asked to choose up to three strategies you’re using to keep bills down, 80% said turning off powerpoints and lights, and 58% are foregoing the heater, even though you’re cold.

“I'm going around my neighbourhood & looking for old wood to burn in my fireplace,” said one member in our forum.

This is compared to 39% who bought energy efficient appliances and 29% each for either buying solar panels or switching suppliers.

Just four per cent claimed they did nothing as they could afford the bills.

The findings are very timely as a legal battle begins in NSW that will have consequences for the entire country in the months to come.

The Australian Competition Tribunal is currently hearing challenges from the NSW state-owned electricity networks to proposed July 1 price cuts, and we'll be campaigning to make your voice heard in the deliberations.

Click here to take our 2-minute survey if you haven’t yet done so

The FiftyUp Club will then put together a submission for the tribunal on behalf of Australians over 50, who tend to be disproportionately impacted by higher power prices.

Very few of us seem to believe the politicians when they say power prices will go down.

Almost 70% feared electricity would rise significantly and 14% hoped for a smaller increase. Only 5% thought prices would be stable and 12% that they might even come down.

There was overwhelming support of 79% for the Australian Energy Regulator's proposal for drastic cost savings to consumers – up to a $300 a year for some households.

Almost 19% said their support  would depend on if there safeguards for workers.

Perhaps most interesting for students of consumer behaviour was much greater trust in the market and competition to contain power prices than the traditional champions of government and regulators.

Some 52% said the market looked after their interests with lower prices and better service ahead of the regulators such as the AER. Federal and state governments got scores of under 10% each.

When it comes to disconnection, a fate which befell nearly 33,000 households in NSW in 2013-14 thanks to unpaid bills, only 1% have actually been cut-off.  But we do wonder how many have had to do what this member has to pay their bills:

“Just can't afford to pay the bills. Spouse is still working at 71 and we still can't make ends meet. Have to frequently ask for extended time on electricity, phone, rates, water rates. Barely enough left for food.”

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Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

CAROLE: You wrote yesterday: "Fedup of estimated electricity bills therefore no solar reading. Sick of complaining nothing changes. Have smartmeter obviously not in use? This is a sham. Live in rural area no natural gas have to use electric heating. Have woodfire can't afford wood no one to fetch wood. And on and on it goes. Carole from Victoria ". CAN I PLEASE HAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU WITH THE VIEW OF TRANSFERRING AN -UNSPECIFIED- AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT TO HELP YOU TOWARDS THE COSTS OF PURCHASING SOME FIRE WOOD -NO STRINGS ATTACHED, CAROLE-? THANK YOU, CAROLE. 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

Signed: Chris Shakes Depair 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

*Despair 

Ron
Ron from NSW commented:

Did all Concession Card Holders know that Click Energy give them LESS DISCOUNT than Non Concession Card Holders because they deduct the Government Rebate [$235/Year] BEFORE they apply their "Offered 17% off total Bill ". To get the SAME DISCOUNT as the NCCH's the Government Rebate should be deducted AFTER the 17% is applied . Over the full year CCH's get $39.95 less Discount than NCCH's off their Electricity Bills,based on the same Consumption and Service Charges over the same Billing Period. I offer these details to everyone for comments? Ron from the South Coast. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Ron:

Thank you, Ron, a good one! 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

I propose we even extend further that help to others, here is an example: Back in 2014, Two Western Australian World War II veterans who received honours for bravery had been invited to a lunch with the Australian and British prime ministers, but had to pay their own way to Canberra and meet all expenses for the trip: No free lunch under Abbott's regime for WWII bomber brothers who won France's highest honour, when if 2000 only out of the 125000 members we are gave those heroes ONE DOLLAR each, they could have received the help they deserve from us, club members! Let's help others when our government miserably fails the elderly in our society... Here is [IN TWO PARTS] the story of Eric and Murray (from ABC, a great read on a wintery Saturday morning ): Now in their 90s, the brothers will need support from their wives to make Friday's lunch, thrown in honour of Australian airmen who fought in Bomber Command and attended by Britain's David Cameron and Australia's Tony Abbott. The expected cost of transporting each to the capital is $2,000. Murray Maxton said he was honoured to receive the invitation, but perhaps it was time for the Government to remember what went before. "They paid our fare over there during the war, wherever we went during the war they paid our fare but now we've won the war they want to forget about us really," he said. "When you're 94 you can't get another job, I mean, we've worked pretty hard all our life and we haven't cost the country much." Murray and Eric Maxton flew together in 460 Squadron in 1944, bombing Hitler's factories in Nazi Germany. 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

(Continued) They were the only brothers to fly combat missions in the same aircraft, a practice forbidden at the time but excused by RAAF Bomber Command because of a shortage of skilled air crew. Their father and uncle served in World War I, with the uncle killed at Gallipoli. The brothers had received no recognition or acknowledgement for their war service up until November this year, when the French Defence Minister presented them with his country's highest honour for bravery, the French Legion of Honour. The Maxtons received their medals during the Albany Convoy Commemorations, exactly 70 years to the month that they finished their tour of duty in Europe. 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

I know that the ABC contacted The Department of Veteran Affairs back then but I do not know the outcome and assuming the Department would have knocked back the request for the reimbursement of their costs, that is when we could help those two brave elders of ours, no? Let's use this great platform for other things than chatting between ourselves, although and as you know it by now, I enjoy enormously my "chatting" (!) herein, little possums... 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

Why don't you contribute? 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

What if Carole posted her email address and we will contact her individually to obtain her bank details since the greed factor seems to be at play here? If we are serious about helping her with her fire wood bill, let's contact her... What do you think, yourself, Carole? 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

Please, do not mix up my name with that of another guy with a very similar name: William Shakespeare is his name, mine is Chris Shakes Despair (sounds very similar, yep, I know, hence my word of warning...) and I wrote myself the best seller "The Shaming of the Shrewd (or the mediocre life of a bigot of an Abbott) " not the more obscure "The Taming of the Shrew"... 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

Back in 5 - Chris 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

"Back in 5" meaning back in roughly 5 hours, not five days, nor five months nor five years, sorry guys... 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

So, here I am back, sorry to keep you: how much collected so far for Carole? Chris Shakes Despair 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

... did I hear the word "hip pocket", at the back of the class? 

Dianne
Dianne from QLD commented:

Anonymous from NSW - why do you find the need to use this forum to put your political views across? I thought the subject here was about electricity not people smuggling 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Dianne:

All entangled: if one PM is able to lie as he did prior to being elected, then proceeds to allegedly help people smugglers with our hard earned money/taxes, what do you think will happen to your power bill if someone from his party runs the show??? 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Dianne:

and by the way: Carole needs one dollar from you, ok? Chris Shakes Despair 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Dianne:

and please, watch those refugees, our streets are clogged 'cause of 'em... Ask The Honorable "the PM finds me sexy" Fiona Scott the Member for Lindsay... 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

I know I am a solotrepreneur but I feel really very lonely at this very minute... Want to be a member of my orchestra? 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

...or a "one-trepreneur"... Still, feeling very lonely... It will take one only $ of yours given to Carole to change that... Chris Shakes Despair 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

From the grapevine: Some of those nasty refugees have been seen in Brissie... 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Dianne:

At least you were clever enough to remove your obnoxious Premier... Is Ms Pinochet (I've not checked the spelling of her name, please, auto-correct) working at improving the amount of your power bills? Far North Qld seems to have been ignored at reading the coms herein... 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Dianne:

I should have asked you: why don't you? 'cause you put the clown of Abbott at the helm of Australia I guess, no? Too ashamed of it? I tell you something a friend told me (to be honest), Dianne, she said: "I don't want a 'decent guy' as Prime Minister, I want someone phenomenal. I want one of the best brains in the country". So whoever voted for this clown of a pretend Christian should get that message clear and loud: "you must do better, next time"... Ignoring Abbott for a sec, please remember, unless you belong to the 1% of rich Aussies he governs for, you will be a loser with Abbott and his rich mates, his friends the rich Premiers, you are lucky you are not in NSW, we have got an ex merchant banker running NSW to the benefits of his rich friends and I tell you something between you and me he has Baird, many friend who are in charge of "poles and wires" who are paid millions yearly and some in my State are going to have to fork out even more for their electricity, financing political parties is not cheap, neither, Dianne... 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

You do not make any sense. 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

To make it fun and easy, lets all transfer $1 into Carole's bank account, say 1000 of us members do it (less than one out of hundred members!), transfer that 'symbolic' dollar, that is $1000 of Carole's power bill and fire wood bill paid this winter! We will adjust to suit the outcome with Carole's help, feedback... You, also can give me some feedback on this idea, please... -Chris Shakes Despair 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

My 12.10 PM comment [Anonymous - Chris]: "Asked whether he would support in theory a payment to people smugglers, he said: "I'm just not going to get into hypotheticals." He said border protection agencies had been "incredibly creative in coming up with a whole range of strategies" to stop people smuggling. After the interview, Mitchell said the Prime Minister had confirmed by the manner of his answers that Australia had probably paid people smugglers to turn around boats. Sixty-five people from Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Myanmar, who were seeking asylum in New Zealand, had their boat intercepted by Australian navy and Customs officials in late May and were then returned to the island of Rote. The Indonesian police chief on Rote, Hidayat, said the six crew members said they had been given $US5000 each by Australian officials. The crew were apprehended when they arrived at Rote and are being processed for people-smuggling offences. The Indonesian government has said it is shocked by the claims. Foreign Ministry spokesman Arrmanatha Nasir said: "If it is true, it's very concerning that a government official gave money to people smugglers to push back the boat to the middle of the sea." TSMH 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

You do not make any sense. 

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