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We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

 

Political manoeuvring this week saw the Greens back the government’s changes to the pension assets test, saving the budget a handy $2.4 billion but injecting even more uncertainty into superannuation.

Ballooning costs are good reasons to amend retirement incomes policy, as our members acknowledge, but not everyone should be happy with them being subject to 11th hour back-room political fixes to sidestep Labor’s opposition to the changes.

After months of promises that super policy would be left alone, the Greens have put super under the spotlight of the forthcoming tax review in ways which will naturally unsettle many of those counting on some greater certainty around their nest egg and protection from government raids.

The PM and Shorten have taunted each other by claiming, in the one simple take-out from events, that Labor is going after super and the government is targeting pensions.

In our last survey before the Budget, two-thirds said it was time to review tax concessions on super for those with large super balances.

But a larger majority (72%) of the 13,000 respondents supported the idea floated by former premier Jeff Kennett and others for a permanent, bipartisan body to make long–term retirement policy decisions.[1]

And dozens of comments echoed the fiery sentiment that we couldn’t trust the political process to provide stable policy on retirement incomes and it’s time it was outsourced to an independent Reserve Bank-style statutory body.

The conflicting commentary on the radio today and the concerned and confused questions from callers suggests ongoing problems around the tightened assets test, which doesn’t actually apply until Jan 2017.

Some will point out it’s only returning the status quo on eligibility to where it was before the then-PM John Howard made generous concessions before an election in 2007. And even if you are less eligible for the pension you’ll still get the seniors health card and its discounts.

The raw figures show while 170,000 less well-off retirees will then get an extra $30 a fortnight, amongst the better-off some 90,000 will lose the part-pension altogether and a quarter of a million will have it reduced.

But better-off on paper isn’t “rolling in it” in reality. This was the argument which Labor seemed to be advancing, until they were trumped politically by the Greens.

So far we haven’t heard much of the plight of these so-called ‘losers’ from the bargain with the government and the Greens, but there may be more to come.

The Australian Seniors group have highlighted the problem for single pensioners with not always  flash levels of  assets. Their part pensions would erode with $500,000 of assets, besides the family home, leaving them worse off than if they relied entirely on a pension. But the government says they should be drawing down on their assets, not planning to pass them on.

For couples who hold assets on top of the home, the new level will be $823,000.

Whichever way you cut the numbers, or perceive the fairness or otherwise of the eligibility changes, it’s more likely that ever that polarised policies will propel pensions and super to the fore of the next election.

And that’s why we’ve renewed our call today in support of the Jeff Kennett idea. Let us know what you think in the forum below.

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Someone from NSW commented:

PUT The Greens at the helm and OUR problem is solved: I DO TRUST THE GREENS, MYSELF, NOT THE REST OF 'EM: THAT "REST OF 'EM" HAVE NOW PROVEN HOW CORRUPTED AND INCOMPETENT THEY ARE, LOOKING AFTER THEIR OWN SELVES, NOT US, LYING TO US THRU THEIR TEETH ! EXPECT THE WORST FOR YOUR SUPERS WITH EITHER THE COALITION OR LABOR ... 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

The politicians should have to live on a pension the same as ours when they retire not on the pension they get with all its lurks and perks why don't they put that to the vote to see what the general public think. We can not earn millions of dollars and still get a pension so why should they!!!!!!!! 

Stephen
Stephen from QLD commented:

I would like to spend the rest of my retirement not worrying whether the government is going to change the rules on the money I have saved. 

Diane
Diane from QLD commented:

What incentive is it for those that save ie put any spare money into Super? I saved all my working life to provide a better future "in retirement" so I wouldn't be solely reliable on the pension. The Government also needs to remember that for the majority of us "Baby Boomers" the super act only came in later in life for most of us and therefore we didn't have the benefit of saving into Super in our twenties. We had a contract with both sides of Government that our Super would be there for US ie the owner of the Superannuation - not for the rest of the nation that didn't bother to save. Like others have commented perhaps in hindsight it would be better to just be a "bludger" as there seems to be more empathy for those who will not have enough to retire on. I understand there are circumstances that prevent some of the population to be self funded but surely not the majority. Not happy......... 

Peter
Peter from QLD commented:

We all know that the Greens are simply a poor leftover from Communism, and their interest in people is from the old Commie regime, which is outdated, and so are the Greedy Greens. Go away 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Peter:

THAT IS A TIRED "CLICHE", MATE! YOU ARE "BEHIND", Peter! The Greens ARE our FUTURE, unlike the rest they have some INTEGRITY, THEM!!! 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Alain:

SO TRUE, Alain! THEY HAVE ALL THE EVIDENCE BEFORE THEIR -CLOSED?- EYES, BUT STILL, THEY TELL YOU THAT NOT ABBOTT, NO! NOT THE COALITION, NO! : "THE GREENS" ARE THE CORRUPTED ONES ! AND THE GREENS HAVE NEVER BEEN AT THE HELM OF AUSTRALIA, SO, HOW WOULD THEY KNOW? 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Peter:

NO SLOGANS, PLEASE ,PETER! TIME HAS ARRIVED FOR SOME SERIOUS ACTION, NOT IDEOLOGIES FROM THE PAST... WE NEED THE GOVERNANCE OF PEOPLE WHO POSSESS SOME INTEGRITY, NONE OF THE ONES YOU HAVE GIVEN US SO FAR, POSSESS ANY... 

Paul
Paul from NSW commented:

Over my entire working life I paid full tax and contributed to a super fund to provide for the future. Political maneuvering and 'tinkering' ensure that I have no guarantees about what that future will (or ever) look like. I am over all political parties at present. The Greens have no idea what the real world looks like. Labour is anti anything the Liberals propose but propose nothing in its stead, and Tony seems to only have time for bike riding, running and surfing while Joe thinks poor people don't need to worry about petrol prices cause they can't afford cars and can't afford housing cause they don't have a good job. I think we need to rethink our whole political structure and have it run by people who don't treat their jobs like a "hobby" .... Pablo from Sydney 

doug
doug from NSW commented:

I think we should have a free independent body not linked to any political party . I think I should have been a doley no problem with assets and super. abbott leave us xxxidiot 

Pamela
Pamela from NSW commented:

I am grateful to be self funded in retirement but I would like the government to consider how retirees might make more money by enterprise. I would like to build duplexes on my property but may need a small loan to do so. My income from bank interest is lower than the pension so I would welcome some initiative to make a loan more easily available. I do think we need to be judicious in our approach to giving money to people who already have more than enough & should take note of the debt crises in other 1st world countries. I don't think yet another independent body would help but we do need something in place to ensure the poorer retirees are taken care of & I passionately believe the frail & sick elderly should be assisted to stay in their own homes. Sincerely, Pamela Vincent. 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

“No cuts or changes to pensions.” ABBOTT, WEDNESDAY 28 August 2013 to which you add: “There will be no deals with independents and minor parties.” ABBOTT, TUESDAY 3 September 2013 ... and you should have got "the picture", by now, no?I stop there although I have many more lies from Abbott from before the Sept. 2013 election... 

Alan
Alan from QLD commented:

Would you trust a politician with your super? I certainly don't, an independent body may not be the whole answer but it would remove it from the whims of the politicians. Anyway Mr Abbott said they would not be increase taxes on super so we can all sleep easy? 

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