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We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

 

Political manoeuvring this week saw the Greens back the government’s changes to the pension assets test, saving the budget a handy $2.4 billion but injecting even more uncertainty into superannuation.

Ballooning costs are good reasons to amend retirement incomes policy, as our members acknowledge, but not everyone should be happy with them being subject to 11th hour back-room political fixes to sidestep Labor’s opposition to the changes.

After months of promises that super policy would be left alone, the Greens have put super under the spotlight of the forthcoming tax review in ways which will naturally unsettle many of those counting on some greater certainty around their nest egg and protection from government raids.

The PM and Shorten have taunted each other by claiming, in the one simple take-out from events, that Labor is going after super and the government is targeting pensions.

In our last survey before the Budget, two-thirds said it was time to review tax concessions on super for those with large super balances.

But a larger majority (72%) of the 13,000 respondents supported the idea floated by former premier Jeff Kennett and others for a permanent, bipartisan body to make long–term retirement policy decisions.[1]

And dozens of comments echoed the fiery sentiment that we couldn’t trust the political process to provide stable policy on retirement incomes and it’s time it was outsourced to an independent Reserve Bank-style statutory body.

The conflicting commentary on the radio today and the concerned and confused questions from callers suggests ongoing problems around the tightened assets test, which doesn’t actually apply until Jan 2017.

Some will point out it’s only returning the status quo on eligibility to where it was before the then-PM John Howard made generous concessions before an election in 2007. And even if you are less eligible for the pension you’ll still get the seniors health card and its discounts.

The raw figures show while 170,000 less well-off retirees will then get an extra $30 a fortnight, amongst the better-off some 90,000 will lose the part-pension altogether and a quarter of a million will have it reduced.

But better-off on paper isn’t “rolling in it” in reality. This was the argument which Labor seemed to be advancing, until they were trumped politically by the Greens.

So far we haven’t heard much of the plight of these so-called ‘losers’ from the bargain with the government and the Greens, but there may be more to come.

The Australian Seniors group have highlighted the problem for single pensioners with not always  flash levels of  assets. Their part pensions would erode with $500,000 of assets, besides the family home, leaving them worse off than if they relied entirely on a pension. But the government says they should be drawing down on their assets, not planning to pass them on.

For couples who hold assets on top of the home, the new level will be $823,000.

Whichever way you cut the numbers, or perceive the fairness or otherwise of the eligibility changes, it’s more likely that ever that polarised policies will propel pensions and super to the fore of the next election.

And that’s why we’ve renewed our call today in support of the Jeff Kennett idea. Let us know what you think in the forum below.

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Les
Les from NSW commented:

The Greens have again proved what a useless lot they are. How can a couple with less than 600 thoudsand dollars each to last them up to 30 more years be considered wealthy? I worked my arse off and went without to ensure that I could provide a decent lifestyle for my wife and I In retirement and have never received a cent from Government which is more than can be said for the lot who voted for this legislation. It would be ok if we had the sort of pension certainty that the Greens pollies have. If the Greens pollies were fair dinkum they would give up their pensions and live on their super savings like they are forcing other Australians to do. I am willing to wager that they won't. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Les:

So you know what to do now -if anything positive about the stupidity of this move re. our pensions-: Find the best, most expensive cruise and spoil yourself and your loved ones, that is what you end up doing with obnoxious (stupid, really) politicians... I recommend you, myself a stay in Bora Bora, or Paris (a good Champagne is 'Taittinger', preferably at the 'Lido' or 'Moulin Rouge')... 

Geoffrey
Geoffrey from NSW commented:

Super should be handled by an independent body. The politicians keep changing the rules. Super guarantee should increase each year. How can you plan for retirement now when its years away and the rules will change 

Kerry
Kerry from VIC commented:

I worked hard in several occupations and invested wisely for my large superannuation balance. I've paid a lot of tax over the years, which is fine. But I don't appreciate having to worryi over whether or not the politicians will keep fiddling with super tax to make me worse off in retirement. I want to be able to plan my retirement with a view to being tax-free and no tax-payer funded pension. But it isn't fair to have to worry about super/pension tax to keep supporting those who didn't work as hard or invest cleverly over their working life as I have done. Maybe I should just spend it all and take whatever pension there is at the time.. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Kerry:

But taking a pension is as good as it gets - remain independent of any welfare is my advice if possible. 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

Most people on this site do not understand nor appreciate the complexities associated with Australian Superannuation system. Too many emotive comments attest to this fact, including C Zinn framing of the question. Heaven help us if 90% of this advice is taken. 

Kerry
Kerry from VIC replied to Warren:

Agree wholeheartedly. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Warren:

What if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ... 

Richard
Richard from NSW commented:

make our super safe, play with politicians super first ! 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Richard:

Vote for the SAFE pollies first... 

John
John from NSW commented:

I bet the politians won't mess around with their own greedy self imposed entitlements. 

Al
Al from NSW commented:

Once money goes into Super the pollies should not be allowed to tax drawings from Super as "Income": that's what both Labour and the Greens are proposing. 

Gail
Gail from QLD commented:

Retirement income needs to be separated into two distinct parts - superannuation and government pensions. Superannuation is what the employer pays in Super guarantee together with what the individual pays into a super fund - both should be compulsory to the extent that any citizen is employed or earns money through their own enterprise. Govt pensions are at the expense of tax payers in the present - there is no connection with the past. That is, when citizens worked and paid tax they received benefits in the form of Defence, hospitals, roads, etc. This DOES NOT create any future "entitlement" to a Government pension. Superannuation should be protected from Government changes and greedy fund managers fees. There should be a stable environment in which to plan and any changes need the assessment by a high level of independence from politicians and approval through a direct dialogue with the country as a whole. Citizens should provide for their own retirement and be given some clear taxation relief and encouragement to support such savings. I think their is room for the superannuation system to take account of the need for wealthy Australians to contribute more. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Gail:

A good comment Gail esp. the future entitlement mentality. 

Debra
Debra from QLD commented:

Leave our super and pensions alone. Are the politicians 

Robbie
Robbie from NSW commented:

Planning decades ago for my retirement and then all is changed because of politicians using their left or right beliefs to destroy my long term plans. GET POLITICS OUT OF SUPER -- Use a real independent body.. then leave it alone. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Robbie:

You'll need to remove Union/Labor/ACTU controlled Industry Funds then. Best of luck doing that. 

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