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What should grandparents get in return for giving their grandkids ‘free’ childcare?

What should grandparents get in return for giving their grandkids ‘free’ childcare?

As a doting grandparent who  helps provide more childcare than any other formal service in Australia should you be paid for your services by the government or your own children?

This intriguing question follows a new report into the grey army which each week  looks after 837,000 kids and weighs up the costs and the benefits for all parties.

While most do it for love a third of those in the survey, from the National Seniors Productive Ageing Centre, incurred extras costs such as food, transport and outings.

The report, which you can see in full here (link  http://www.nationalseniors.com.au/be-informed/research/publications/grandparents)  says:

“When making the decision to take on a regular care commitment, the grandparents in the study did not weigh up the financial costs and benefits: most had not even made any attempt to calculate the household outlays associated with their care. Rather, many thought it was a normal part of their grandparent role.”

It might be being normalised but the statistics suggest  half of grandparents want  the government to compensate them for the amount of care they provide. In Australia only three percent get paid.

It’s not so crazy. In South Korea grandparents are not only paid typically about $800 a month for childcare by their grateful children but they are, according to reports, demanding even more.

And recognition can come in different ways. In the UK for example there’s a system of carer credits to the public  age pension for grandparents providing such childcare.

The survey highlighted the direct costs of the caring commitment with 70% altering the days and shifts they worked, 55% reducing their hours and even 18% changing their jobs.

Also one third of respondents reported their childcare duties meant they had to change the timing or expected timing of their retirement.

Of course many reported enjoying looking after their kids’ kids but not after a certain amount of time. 

Interestingly there’s ‘tipping point’ of 13 or more hours a week when it all becomes less enjoyable and the impacts on work and retirement are ramped up.

The conclusion of the survey is that there’s a policy black hole with no recognition of the importance of grandparent childcare to the wellbeing of families, communities and the economy.

It suggests policy reform to help these carers make better choices and mitigate the impact of providing ‘free’ childcare on their incomes, retirement plans and ability to work.

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Gary
Gary from NSW commented:

I would feel so so guilty taking money from a tax payer to pay for any costs I may incur minding MY grandchild.What next. Is everything free? No wonder our country is in so much debt with attitudes like this. anthony from QLD is spot on. 

Mitzi
Mitzi from NSW commented:

Minding the grandchildren for "no pay" from the government, beggers the question " as we age and need care" we cannot rely on our children to help as they are in their working prime & don't have time for us. 

anthony
anthony from QLD commented:

With an attitude like yours it is no wonder that the family unit is being further eroded. The government doesn't have to pay for everything. If you don't want to care for your grandchildren then don't. Your children can then make other arrangements. After all the grandchildren are their children - they can accept their own responsibilities - after all they were the ones who made their children. It is about time people returned to a mentality whereby they accepted their responsibilities and don't just duckshove them to others. 

Heather
Heather from QLD commented:

I see no reason why the government should pay for what is a private arrangement within a family. Seems people want to be paid for everything these days. I grew up in a time when families all mucked in together and helped each other out - it was just what families did. My grandchildren live interstate and I get to see them only three or four times a year. Recently I had to make the trip as my daughter was in hospital for over a week. As a pensioner this was not an insignificant cost, but I don't expect my daughter to reimburse me - the joy I get spending time with the little ones far outweighs the the airfares and associated costs. However, if there are costs involved on a frequent or regular basis for grandparents on a pension, I would hope that the parents would be sufficiently appreciative to at least offer to help out with those costs. 

Pam
Pam from QLD commented:

LOVE and HUGS 

Janet
Janet from QLD commented:

If they choose to, grandparents need to be treated same remuneration as family daycare costs with government rebates included. 

Marilyn
Marilyn from NSW commented:

Families care for one another, that's why they are a family. Grandparents care for grandchildren, and children care for elderly parents. Payment if needed should not be a government matter, but between family members. Welfare needs serious reassessment by the community and government. We as a people need to reclaim responsibility for our manner of living, and pay for education, and heath care ourselves, and only those unable to do so become a community,/govt responsibility. 

Janet
Janet from QLD replied to Marilyn:

Unfortunately that is not always so and some grand parents who can't get work could benefit from some extra income too. 

Wouterina
Wouterina from WA commented:

I do not support Government paying grand parents . Parents and grand parents should communicate exactly what is expected and how much time they are prepared to devote and then discuss remuneration if grand parents think it's needed but the very least is repay- petrol used. and never abuse the kindness of the grand parents by asking for more than agreed too or not sticking to the set times without good reason . . 

susan
susan from NSW commented:

Perhaps after a certain number of hours a week they should get an allowance equal to that which is paid against pre schools fees. Ie if a parent has their fees reduced by 10% a day then the grandparent should be paid the amount saved by this deductuon. An average amount across the board would have to be determined. This amount should be paid whether the grandparent is on a pension, self funded retiree or still working. This payment should also be tax free. 

Ray
Ray from NSW commented:

Looking after children is the responsibility of the parents. If the grandparents wish to assist then that's fine. If the grandparents need, or want, to be paid then that's for the parents to pay, certainly not other people - other tax payers. My wife and I would not have expected any form of remuneration for the support we provided for our grandchildren. If we couldn't have provided that support for any reason we wouldn't have offered. If parents cannot afford to look after their children with the already available benefits, they shouldn't expect other people to pay for them. 

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