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We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

 

Political manoeuvring this week saw the Greens back the government’s changes to the pension assets test, saving the budget a handy $2.4 billion but injecting even more uncertainty into superannuation.

Ballooning costs are good reasons to amend retirement incomes policy, as our members acknowledge, but not everyone should be happy with them being subject to 11th hour back-room political fixes to sidestep Labor’s opposition to the changes.

After months of promises that super policy would be left alone, the Greens have put super under the spotlight of the forthcoming tax review in ways which will naturally unsettle many of those counting on some greater certainty around their nest egg and protection from government raids.

The PM and Shorten have taunted each other by claiming, in the one simple take-out from events, that Labor is going after super and the government is targeting pensions.

In our last survey before the Budget, two-thirds said it was time to review tax concessions on super for those with large super balances.

But a larger majority (72%) of the 13,000 respondents supported the idea floated by former premier Jeff Kennett and others for a permanent, bipartisan body to make long–term retirement policy decisions.[1]

And dozens of comments echoed the fiery sentiment that we couldn’t trust the political process to provide stable policy on retirement incomes and it’s time it was outsourced to an independent Reserve Bank-style statutory body.

The conflicting commentary on the radio today and the concerned and confused questions from callers suggests ongoing problems around the tightened assets test, which doesn’t actually apply until Jan 2017.

Some will point out it’s only returning the status quo on eligibility to where it was before the then-PM John Howard made generous concessions before an election in 2007. And even if you are less eligible for the pension you’ll still get the seniors health card and its discounts.

The raw figures show while 170,000 less well-off retirees will then get an extra $30 a fortnight, amongst the better-off some 90,000 will lose the part-pension altogether and a quarter of a million will have it reduced.

But better-off on paper isn’t “rolling in it” in reality. This was the argument which Labor seemed to be advancing, until they were trumped politically by the Greens.

So far we haven’t heard much of the plight of these so-called ‘losers’ from the bargain with the government and the Greens, but there may be more to come.

The Australian Seniors group have highlighted the problem for single pensioners with not always  flash levels of  assets. Their part pensions would erode with $500,000 of assets, besides the family home, leaving them worse off than if they relied entirely on a pension. But the government says they should be drawing down on their assets, not planning to pass them on.

For couples who hold assets on top of the home, the new level will be $823,000.

Whichever way you cut the numbers, or perceive the fairness or otherwise of the eligibility changes, it’s more likely that ever that polarised policies will propel pensions and super to the fore of the next election.

And that’s why we’ve renewed our call today in support of the Jeff Kennett idea. Let us know what you think in the forum below.

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Deirdre
Deirdre from NSW commented:

Why don't the Liberals tax their super, there are two lots of people who live in this country The lower incomes and the liberal Pollies I know who pays the most. I think Abbot and Hockey need to be in a competition to see would on the pension. 

Peter
Peter from NSW commented:

I support the idea of a Super Authority to try and stop all of the changes or a least slow them down. I am retired now but a few years ago I was compelled to pay the Super Surcharge that cost me $39,000 all because I had a good job. It was only a temporary measure that lasted seven years, Simon Crean as Opposition Leader refused to back the removal calling it "Tax cuts for the rich". Now a good super is despised instead of encouraged to keep us off the Government Pension. All very good but how does a person working plan their super not knowing if they will be penalised for having the forethought and luck to have a decent super amount. I would not trust the Greens as they are an extreme Left Wing Party with no idea how the system would works and would not work if they got their hands on the levers. Worse than Labor if possible? 

Richard
Richard from QLD commented:

Lets leave Politics out of it and place these matters in the hands of an Independent Body, where Bias and Prejudice, are removed from the process. 

Denzil
Denzil from NSW commented:

I support the Jeff Kennett idea. Fairness, clarity and long term planning is required for the sake of both sides - the Government that would like to take all our Super and the superannuants, who MUST have some stability, to make long term plans. 

Christopher
Christopher from NSW commented:

I will shortly be a SFR and will never get any Government Benefit other than a Seniors Card. BIG DEAL? I have had hard times and good times but have never sought Gov't assistance to help pay my bills and we struggled at times with interest rates hitting 18%. We got through. I will always be taxed but what for? Baby Bonus, Paid Parental Leave. First Home Buyer Grant and the list goes on for other things not available to me, but now pay taxes for. I am disgusted to think I help pay for Joseph Shockies 'Home Away' accommodation' fees. Apparently Pensioners or Self Funded Retirees do not matter? 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

Goin' like a house on fire this thread! Abbott must have put his hand once again in your hip pocket, I will guess... I leave you between friends, but, please, don't forget who put him where he is, the obnoxious bigot... Signed: God 

Alex
Alex from NSW commented:

The letter I have sent to the Greens. Perhaps others should do the same. I am one of the 90,000 or so aged part pensioners who will be drastically affected by the changes that you have agreed to. I have worked well beyond "retirement" age to build up my superannuation and some term deposits to support me and my wife well into old age. I have counted on the part age pension as it was "promised". Now it worries me sick as my super and investments will end up being less than the age pension as my part pension will be reduced or wiped out. If I had spent my money instead of saving it in super I would be entitled to a full pension but now I will get far less than those on an age pension. You are absolutely out of touch with what may be considered to be the well off or wealthy, as people such as I am are nowhere near such a position. You should be looking at the wonderful tax concessions that are given to the genuine wealthy - obviously the friends and supporters of the coalition. If these concessions were reduced it would more than make up for the cost of age pensions and part pensions to the likes of me. Thank you for your lack of understanding of the financial situation of tens of thousands of Aged Australians who are entitled to only a part pension and who will find life even harder in the future. I trust that you and your ilk will find it just as difficult when you retire - but of course you won't as you will be on your fantastic parliamentary pensions for life. There is no way that I could ever again vote for the Greens in any future election if that is the Green's attitude to people who have insufficient assets to even earn the same amount as an age pension. There is no way that I could ever again vote for the Greens in any future election if that is the Green's attitude to people who have insufficient assets to even earn the same amount as an age pension. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Alex:

Understand what The Greens are doingAlex... The 'enemy' IS the coalition (you say it yourself, Alex: "You should be looking at the wonderful tax concessions that are given to the genuine wealthy - obviously the friends and supporters of the coalition.") THIS IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT: the SERIOUSLY RICH getting away with murder, with the complicity of their friends, the Libs (and Nationals...)... 

Paul
Paul from QLD commented:

The total cost of the pension and the tax concessions, at some $76 billion, far exceeds the $55 billion it would cost to simply pay the pension to everyone over 65....Why not make the pension universal – free of means test – and abolish the tax concessions? This would leave enough – even on the Treasury’s conservative ‘revenue gain’ figures - to raise the base pension rate by 25% ensuring that most people gained more on the pension side than they would lose on the tax side. The age pension costs $42 billion pa and superannuation tax concessions will cost the budget $34 billion in 2014-15 according to the TES. These tax concessions are projected to rise to $50 billion in 2017, an increase of around 11 per cent per annum. By this time superannuation tax concessions will be the single largest area of government (tax) expenditure. The overwhelming majority of this assistance flows to high income earners. Low income earners receive virtually no benefit. The combined cost of these two policies is $76 billion. With an ageing population the dual pension/superannuation system will become increasingly expensive. Not only are tax concessions untouched in the budget, but the Government plans to abolish the only progressive part of the whole system, the low income contribution for those earning up to $37,000, and has not proceeded with the previous Government’s plan to tax funds in pension phase when investment income exceeds $100,000. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Paul:

"Universal" you are correct is the 'key word'.. applies also to healthcare, etc... But this is what this mob of LNP loves above all to demolish (like the Republicans in the USA) , for them they cannot be 'equal' humans: there must be a group (of them and their friends) who should exploit the rest whose sole purpose in life is to insure that they exist with not a single financial worry in the world... And we vote for them, they con us into believing that they will improve our condition (refer Abbott PRIOR being elected , and AFTER...)... 

Stephen
Stephen from QLD commented:

My biggest worry is if we leave our super to the experts or the free market a lot of fund managers and executives may see this as a chance to make millions. Maybe a combination of the two, Government and super experts. 

Christopher
Christopher from NSW commented:

This Liberal Govenment has shown itself to be completely dishonest & totally under handed on so many subjects that effect our day to day living but this blatant rip off to certain pensions & the people's retirement funds have turned me off Abbott forever & a day As for the Greens backing this turncoat move there finished too in our books I'm aware pensions required looking at and maybe even an overhaul but not in this way which directly breaks a Liberal promise stating pensions would not be touched. 

brendon
brendon from QLD commented:

Basically it doesn't leave a good taste in my mouth when I shall want a sum of money to pay out a loan before I retire next year, uncertainity ?? is a question here. Plus talking about extra tax on it when out, I paid tax on way in, so there is a lot of uncertainities for people coming WRONG. Brendon 

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