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We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

 

Political manoeuvring this week saw the Greens back the government’s changes to the pension assets test, saving the budget a handy $2.4 billion but injecting even more uncertainty into superannuation.

Ballooning costs are good reasons to amend retirement incomes policy, as our members acknowledge, but not everyone should be happy with them being subject to 11th hour back-room political fixes to sidestep Labor’s opposition to the changes.

After months of promises that super policy would be left alone, the Greens have put super under the spotlight of the forthcoming tax review in ways which will naturally unsettle many of those counting on some greater certainty around their nest egg and protection from government raids.

The PM and Shorten have taunted each other by claiming, in the one simple take-out from events, that Labor is going after super and the government is targeting pensions.

In our last survey before the Budget, two-thirds said it was time to review tax concessions on super for those with large super balances.

But a larger majority (72%) of the 13,000 respondents supported the idea floated by former premier Jeff Kennett and others for a permanent, bipartisan body to make long–term retirement policy decisions.[1]

And dozens of comments echoed the fiery sentiment that we couldn’t trust the political process to provide stable policy on retirement incomes and it’s time it was outsourced to an independent Reserve Bank-style statutory body.

The conflicting commentary on the radio today and the concerned and confused questions from callers suggests ongoing problems around the tightened assets test, which doesn’t actually apply until Jan 2017.

Some will point out it’s only returning the status quo on eligibility to where it was before the then-PM John Howard made generous concessions before an election in 2007. And even if you are less eligible for the pension you’ll still get the seniors health card and its discounts.

The raw figures show while 170,000 less well-off retirees will then get an extra $30 a fortnight, amongst the better-off some 90,000 will lose the part-pension altogether and a quarter of a million will have it reduced.

But better-off on paper isn’t “rolling in it” in reality. This was the argument which Labor seemed to be advancing, until they were trumped politically by the Greens.

So far we haven’t heard much of the plight of these so-called ‘losers’ from the bargain with the government and the Greens, but there may be more to come.

The Australian Seniors group have highlighted the problem for single pensioners with not always  flash levels of  assets. Their part pensions would erode with $500,000 of assets, besides the family home, leaving them worse off than if they relied entirely on a pension. But the government says they should be drawing down on their assets, not planning to pass them on.

For couples who hold assets on top of the home, the new level will be $823,000.

Whichever way you cut the numbers, or perceive the fairness or otherwise of the eligibility changes, it’s more likely that ever that polarised policies will propel pensions and super to the fore of the next election.

And that’s why we’ve renewed our call today in support of the Jeff Kennett idea. Let us know what you think in the forum below.

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Alain
Alain from NSW commented:

Good luck to you... 

Alain
Alain from NSW commented:

Agreed! That is the sort of guy he is, and why I would have never touched the "piece of paper with his name on it" beside a ballot box even with a ten foot pole... he "looks" untrustworthy and he has now proven (how many times?...) that he is a clown... It's going to cost us a real mozza, heaps, though... 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Alain:

: @Bob 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Alain:

I write re. ABBOTT -in reply to Bob- 

Colin
Colin from NSW commented:

We feel this is BS 

Ann
Ann from WA commented:

Many of us over 50,s and older who are still in the workforce or recently retired. Have worked up to 50 years , raised families paid off homes AND saved for our futures in various ways including through super ,yet the politicians and their cronies decided that WE aren't capable of managing our own savings /super ! Most baby boomers grew up knowing that we had to work for what we wanted and to save what we could when we could ,be responsible for our own debts and not blame everyone else for our woes. WHY should we be forced to let politicians on their huge salaries tell us what to do with our savings ,or how much we can have ? They are all itching to get their hands on our super ,which we have all worked so hard for it is not their money it's our savings .They have proven that they have no idea how to manage the taxes we pay or how to live within the constrains of that money .They certainly have no right to our personal savings / super .WE the people have more knowledge of budgets than they .Its time we 50/60, year olds got very vocal and remind the govt that our age group are doing the heavy lifting in regard to the taxes we pay and we are not something to be tolerated or treated like we aren't very intelligent . 

donna
donna from NSW commented:

take the politics out. Give us security. 

Paul
Paul from QLD commented:

Michael, repeating my previous post, tax concessions for super contributions & pensions cost the government more than 10 BILLION dollars per annum. Super tax concessions, as a cost to the budget, will be more than the entire aged pension costs by 2016-17. The Australia Institute's recent report on Superannuation and Pensions found that: "The pension system directs assistance to the poor; the tax system to the rich. The tax system encourages savings; the pension means test discourages both work and savings. The total cost of the pension and the tax concessions, at some $76 billion, far exceeds the $55 billion it would cost to simply pay the pension to everyone over 65....Why not make the pension universal – free of means test – and abolish the tax concessions? This would leave enough – even on the Treasury’s conservative ‘revenue gain’ figures - to raise the base pension rate by 25% ensuring that most people gained more on the pension side than they would lose on the tax side. " 

Michael
Michael from NSW commented:

my fear with superannuation is that the government where be labor or liberal will see 3 trillion dollars in Australian superfunds and will make laws to convert all this money in a national super system. If they do this they can then pay a pension to all retirees (ie the age pension) and when they die there will be no residual to flow on to there estate. So much for contributing above the 9% and if you have you have just contributed so someone else can benefit not you. The government can then pay off the national debt with your money.Can someone tell me I am wrong. 

Ann
Ann from WA replied to Michael:

You are not wrong in that thinking ,we are all fearing that very real possibility . 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Michael:

You are wrong. It's only $1.9 Trillion in funds at this stage. Australia is better off because of this sovereign fund - the envy of our G20 countries. It our money not the governments, so how do you suggest the Government nationalise it? 

Barry
Barry from NSW commented:

I am in Favour of the government's new pension proposal 

Michael
Michael from QLD commented:

your dead right politicians can't be trusted to leave our super alone ,or to do the right thing with pensions which help older generations to live, we definitely need an independent forum to at least help with some direction.After all the polies will retire with their more than generous super gained at our expense. 

Paul
Paul from QLD commented:

I agree with you Alain. I can't see any leadership coming from the ALP or LNP. They both need to clearly articulate their vision for the long term future of the country so that we can make an informed choice at the next election. The only party that has consistently explained its vision and the values that underpin it is the Greens. I wish that was not the case because, in the past both the LNP and Labor have done great things, driven by their values. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Paul:

you're as mad as Alian. 

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