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Over 50s reckon Budget fair enough, but not great hopes

Over 50s reckon Budget fair enough, but not great hopes

While the argy-bargy about how fair the Budget is (or isn’t) continues in Canberra, it’s reassuring to share some common-sense from the wisdom of the crowd that is FiftyUp Club members.

More than 3,400 of you answered our snap poll after the Budget and found overall it was both fair and unlikely to change your voting intentions.

But you were equally divided as to whether Mr Hockey’s planned expenditures and savings would actually solve any of the long-term challenges facing the country.

There were four concise multiple-choice questions on the Budget; how fair was it in your assessment, what was its impact on your lives and how likely was it to change both your vote and address Australia’s problems?

The results in summary were:

  • Only 1/3 of you say the Budget was unfair on over-50s
  • 42% say it had a negative impact on them, and
  • Nearly 2/3 say it's not a vote-changer.

We know from previous questionnaires that 48% of you are prepared to identify as coalition voters and 22% as Labor.

Some 70% describe themselves as pensioners and part pensioners – or expect to be in their retirement.

Here are the results in more detail:

Fairness: Almost half (47%) felt it was very or quite fair as opposed to 32% who believed it was very or quite unfair. The neutral measured 21%.

Impact: In terms of personal impact 42% thought it would be severely or slightly negative, 33% were neutral and just 25% a slightly or extremely positive impact.

Voting intention: 63% says the Budget was not at all or very unlikely to see them change their vote. Another 23% said it was quite or very likely to change their vote and 13% were neutral.

Long-term solutions: Split down the middle, with 42% on each side finding it equally likely or unlikely to make a difference. The neutrals were 15%.

It’s interesting many of you were prepared to mark the Budget up as being fair while at the same time acknowledging it was going to cost you something.

Perhaps you were one of the 300,000+ who stood to lose pension entitlements through the tighter eligibility requirements.

It’s taken Labor almost two weeks and detailed analysis they commissioned from NATSEM, the National Centre for Social and Economic Modelling, to pronounce the Budget as ‘unfair’ for low-income families on Monday.

ACOSS, the Australian Council of Social Service, says their modelling shows the government’s decisions to hold onto most of last year’s cuts as well as bring in new ones this May would cost lower-income families and Australians some $15 billion over the next four years.

So there’s plenty more argument to come about the Budget and who does, or doesn’t, carry the can in terms of the cost of the cuts. The focus has been on families so far but expect it to return to the highly contested area of retirement incomes soon.

In the meantime we’ll make the pollies aware of what you think in surveys like this.

For starters, we’ll be on air this afternoon talking to Chris Smith about the snap poll on 2GB 873 at 1.10pm, so do tune in!

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Leigh
Leigh from QLD commented:

I was one that answered it was fair , Until looked more closely , the poor cop it in the neck AGAIN . What are the wealthy contributing ? Guess that's why they vote Liberal . By the way , does Liberals have to declare Andrew Bolt in their Advertising Budget . 

Kathleen
Kathleen from QLD commented:

I have thought that to help get our finances back into the black that $05.00 per surgery visit could help to get back on track ( better than nothing!) and a small GST amount 2% on everything would be a step in the right direction. Oh and if all politicians freeze their pay increases and zip the public spending purse except for necessities for the next few years and of course keep Labour from spoiling the balance! If we have emergencies to pay out for what then do we use? The onus of responsibility rests upon all of us to be maturer in our thinking and our choices and could we have a measure put in place to stop any party overspending in the future. Let us be an example to the younger generations. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Kathleen:

Did you know it: If budget 'mark II' is approved they will apply a $8.42 contribution disguised in that budget, thru the back door, Kathleen ! 

Niki
Niki from NSW commented:

I was quite happy with the Federal Budget - although with the state of the country, I would have liked to see the Doctor's co-payment go through. As a Pensioner I think it only reasonable that we contribute something to our health. I live to a strict budget and would have revised my budget to allow for this. Some ... like the two gentlemen below of course would not. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Niki:

Please, refer to my reply to Kathleen, Niki... 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to Niki:

A lovely response Niki, we all have to sacrifice something. Good on you. 

Niki
Niki from NSW replied to Robert:

Thanks Robert - I just think it's time we all remembered a comment made by John Kennedy - ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country - I genuinely believe that time has come. ALL of us could make some sacrifice, no matter how small, to get our great country back on track and stop thinking all the time "ME, ME, ME". Not too hard surely? All the best Robert. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Niki:

Please, Niki, refer to following comment of mine: 29 May 10:17 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to Niki:

A lovely response Niki, we all have to sacrifice something. Good on you. 

Geoffrey
Geoffrey from NSW commented:

well 2GB is the Liberal Party Headquarters what more. How about you promote Labor some time 

Carol
Carol from NSW replied to Geoffrey:

Tune into Q&A if you weant a labor fix 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Carol:

Q & A is the BEST show there is on Aussie TV: LIVE and ALWAYS RIVETING STUFF !!! 

Carol
Carol from NSW replied to Alain:

And you have the hide to criticize what other people choose to listen to. Typical labor 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Carol:

I beg yours? I respect your choice, myself, Carol. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Carol:

So do I, thanks anonymous for ur help 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Alain:

.....are you for real. Obviously you live in a cave with poor reception. Take off your blinkers and look at the stars. 

Douglas
Douglas from NSW replied to Geoffrey:

Geoff has obviously missed hearing A Jones hammering the Queensland Liberals for close to two years. Geoff has also missed the ongoing criticism of Federal Liberals running away from an inquiry into the precipitous falls in coal prices. Also learned today from 2GB about how the coal companies sell coal to intermediary companies in Singapore to avoid taxation. Any reasonable person would have to agree that there is simply more to be critical about the Leftoids than the Liberals. Graham Richardson seems to agree with quite a bit that is said on 2GB. 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to Douglas:

This guy Geoffrey has no idea what he is writing about. Called a one eyed jack, no just ignorant. Pity this chap is in a dream world and unable tl comprehend what he is writing. Give him a total MISS Douglas. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Douglas:

G. Richardson agrees with anything that generates a decent income... Wouldn't you? 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Douglas:

I read this somewhere re. the mysterious "greening" of Alan Jones: "I am opposed to fracking?—?but now that The Parrot is onto the job, I suppose I’ll have to reconsider my position. The idea of Alan Jones pitching for something worthy seems downright perverse. Perhaps he is hoping to be bought off by a CSG promoter." 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Alain:

I'ld rather listen to AJ than your dibble - at least he's well informed whilst you seem to have a closed and perverse mind. 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to Geoffrey:

Are you serious Geoffrey. IF Labor had any reasonable and calculated policies, why not, but they would be the most discredited party around and the most illeterate members of parliament. When they realise what they have done to the country and own up to the misreable government they ran, then maybe 2gb should give them the time. I am sick of the blindness some people show. It is all about 'me, i' And stuff the country. When is the country going to wake up and stop being negative and do something for the country instead of as I said 'me and I'. Wake up Australia, start supporting the government. If you have any distrust of any politician make sure you approach them and express your feelings. I admire what NZ and what they have been through to bring the country back to reality after what the other lousy Labor government did. Wake up Australia. 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to Geoffrey:

If they have something to promote, why not but do they have anything to promote? Watch Q and A, I am sure they will brighten up your day or better still join the Labor party and see what other benefits they are about to put on the table which will enhance and stuff up this country even more. The so called LNP Headquarters at 2GB still criticises the party wheN need be. OH! I am sorry you just would not understand that. goodbye and TRY and have a pleasant day. 

Geoffrey
Geoffrey from NSW replied to Robert:

I always have a pleasant day 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to Geoffrey:

Good on you, ciao 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Geoffrey:

At least they earn a living and depend on marketing dollars/ratings whilst ABC uses tax payers money, some $1.2B for a bottom of the cockies gage operation. Best we cut our loses and sell this - maybe we'll get a $1 if we're lucky! 

Allan
Allan from NSW commented:

Not surprised to see the bulk of your membership vote Coalition. The majority would be 2GB listeners. As you would know listening to that radio station the presenters are continuously pumping out the Liberal point of view and the talk back callers are exactly the same. Now watch for some readers who will reply to see stating they do not listen to 2GB. Honesty is no where to be found sometimes. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Allan:

I only listen to Bill Crews on 2GB, the rest makes me vomit, especially the outrageous number of ads every four or five minutes to flog anything, from tampons to caravans... 

Niki
Niki from NSW commented:

When people aren't prepared to put their name to a comment, I always get suspicious. I wonder if the two Anonymous commenters are Bill Shorten and Tanya Plibersek. Perhaps not... but definitely don't care about the country they live in. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Niki:

If not it would be one of there other leftoids or maybe Christine Milne. 

Niki
Niki from NSW replied to Warren:

Agree with you there Warren. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Niki:

no wonder you agree with Warren, you agreed earlier with what most ordinary Aussies do not agree with: "I was quite happy with the Federal Budget " ! You would have to stretch it even further to agree with this arrogant 50+ player, Nicki 

Douglas
Douglas from NSW commented:

Bill C is a Leftoid that prays a couple of times a day. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Douglas:

A Uniting Church Reverend who does a fantastic job for the less lucky in our society. 

Douglas
Douglas from NSW commented:

Yes he does. He is able to accomplish these philanthropic deeds using other peoples money to address problems that he has identified. The strategy the Greens employ at every turn. In contrast Bill Gates uses his own money to address problems that he and others have identified. 

Geoffrey
Geoffrey from NSW replied to Allan:

that will be the day AJ and Hadley promote the Labor Party 

Carol
Carol from NSW replied to Allan:

Yes Allan I am a 2GB listener. I suppose you tune into the ABC 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to Allan:

I really feel sorry for you and your stupid comments. You really have no idea what you write. So what if 2gb listeners vote coalition? What about the abc shall I say ghey are generally Labor voters? Are you serious. Wake up mate and don't be so damned one eyed. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Robert:

Robert: IT IS a FACT, 2GB listeners VOTE for the LNP, mate! I read some stats somewhere years ago... 

Robert
Robert from NSW commented:

You see a typical one eyed jack also has selective memory lapses. Now this is exactly the type of person who has no idea why people listen to 2gb, be it the diehard Labor people or the LNP. Fact is that there is a decent audience and that audience gets involved with the topics discussed, it has nothing to do with LNP or Labor. Please wake up and try and comprehend the day to day issues and not just as the LABOR PARTY DOES IT, avoid the questions and respond with absolute rubbish dialogue. Hope you understand. Incidentally, have you ever listened to the ABC which is a public and government funded body that is supposed to report issues in a bipartisan way or are you quiet ready to attack those who listen to 2gb and stations that debate issues fairly Just because they are LNP s Supporters? Remember there are also Labor supporters listening. Your statement is so naive it is amazing. remember the saying? See what you can for do for your country rather than what your country can do for you. Adios pal 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Robert:

..."debate issues fairly"? You must be kidding! Most are, first of all 'climate change' deniers, so from the moment one understands how stupid this is, in 2015, to which you add the million of 'tacky' commercials (Singleton gets his fortune from somewhere, good on him...) and here you have it: you have to be really 'bent' to listen to this 'crappy' medium! Mind you, I endure the ads for Bill Crews, he is the closest thing to Jesus Christ we have on this planet of ours and I ought to compliment the director of programs (and... Singleton...) for that choice. 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

Quite a sicko comment. 

Douglas
Douglas from NSW commented:

Would Lovelock be a Denier? https://climatism.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/climate-change-alarmist-warnings-all-hot-air-says-british-scientist-james-lovelock/ 2014 -- Green guru and geophysicist James Lovelock, considered one of the pioneering scientists of the 20th century, has officially turned his back on man-made global warming claims and the green movement’s focus on renewable energy. Lovelock conceived the Gaia theory back in the 1970s, describing the Earth’s biosphere as “an active, adaptive control system able to maintain the earth in homoeostasis.” In an April 2, 2014 BBC TV interview, Lovelock has come out swinging at his fellow environmentalists, accusing the new UN IPCC global warming report of plagiarizing his now retracted climate claims from his 2006 book ‘The Revenge of Gaia.’ “The last IPCC report is very similar to the (now retracted) statements I made in my book about 8 years ago, called The Revenge of Gaia. It’s almost as if they’ve copied it,” Lovelock told BBC Newsnight television program on April 3. 2013 https://climatism.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/climate-change-alarmist-warnings-all-hot-air-says-british-scientist-james-lovelock/Just six years after predicting climate change would kill billions by the end of this century, British scientist James Lovelock said warming was not happening at forecast rates. “There’s nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now,” Mr Lovelock, who still believes in climate change, told MSNBC. “The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time … it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising – carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that.” In the interview from his home in Britain, the 92-year-old said Professor Flannery’s book The Weather Makers and Al Gore’s An Inconvenient Truthwere “alarmist”. 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to Douglas:

Have you any idea what you are writing about. Have I mentioned anything at all about climate change? Answer is 'NO'. What on earth are you talking about. Mate do not bother responding as obviously you have no idea. I have my own opinion aboug climate change and it does not come anywhere near yours. Good bye Douglas, maybe when you have your own opinion about something that you might be conversant in, you might be able to join them and put in your two bit. Feel sorry for you pal as you really have no idea. Ciao and good luck with whatever you do. 

Douglas
Douglas from NSW replied to Robert:

Anonymous from NSW replied to Robert: ..."debate issues fairly"? You must be kidding! Most are, first of all 'climate change' deniers, I thought I replied to Anonymous in response to the above statement He/she made. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Robert:

What about the 1000 kids under 12 in jail????? 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Douglas:

A bit like A Jones' expert comment: On 15 June 2012, the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) found that Jones had breached the commercial radio code of practice in his reporting of environmental issues. This related to his claim that "human beings produce 0.001 per cent of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere". ACMA chairman Chris Chapman said that the watchdog was not penalising the licensee of 2GB, but was working with it to improve procedures. On 18 October 2012 ACMA ordered Jones to undergo factual accuracy training and employ a fact-checker. Jones responded to these claims on 19 October 2012 claiming that he had mistakenly claimed the 0.001 to be of all "carbon dioxide in the atmosphere" where it should have been "all gases in the atmosphere" and that he had repeated the correct and undisputed figure of 3 percent numerous times later that week and offered a correction. What about sending you Douglas and Lovelock to undergo "factual accuracy training"? 

Douglas
Douglas from NSW commented:

I think I understand. When Lovelock was a prime mover of AGW he was regarded as an iconic intellect by the likes of Anonymous and quoted ad nauseum Now that he has modified and tempered his position, based on even more expertise than he had years before (this would be 100% logical to view him as increasing his knowledge over time) he is now a certified dope according to the likes of Anonymous. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Douglas:

Lovelock is right when he says: "As a result of global warming, billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable" by the end of the 21st century. He has been quoted in The Guardian that 80% of humans will perish by 2100 AD. Which reminds me myself, of course, of our own eminent Frank Fenner ! I invite you to peruse thru his work: http://phys.org/news/2010-06-humans-extinct-years-eminent-scientist.html 

Robert
Robert from NSW commented:

I really pity you whoever you are. Where on earth did this climate change become an issue. You obviously have your own view and good on you, just stick to it if you do not want to listen to a decent commentary on issues that you have now decided to dismiss. Incidentally, I have my own opinion on limate change, but to try and discuss this with you would be an impossibility. Please do not compare Bill Crews to Jesus Christ. He (Bill), is a good man and although, I personally have little time for his commentary, I still think he does alot for the poor and good on him for doing what he does best. He is not a political guru, neither am I or you for that but he should stick with what he does best. Please try and get your head around this stupid notion about conservatives and Labor rubbish on 2GB. They have a great team and at times give a pretty good account of what is happening, if you don't like it and you don't want your blood to boil, it is simple, DO NOT LISTEN. Remember we all have our own opinions but if that upsets you please consider other options. Ciao and try and have a great day by listening to 2gb. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Robert:

Robert: "You obviously have your own view and good on you". Although NOT in the toxic 2015 BUDGET (!), climate change is a serious PUBLIC matter affecting us all -seriously- already -how many Indian dead? 1500 and climbing, both the death rate and the temperature, 49defgree C.!- and everybody must be made aware of the latest -serious- discoveries, e.g. : http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32837201 

Robert
Robert from NSW commented:

Sad that so many lost their lives. Mr or Mrs Anonymous, whoever you are, please do not try and lecture me about climate change etc. I am not a denialist but a realist. Have you also taken to account the thousands who die because of extreme COLD. Come on there is always two sides to a discussion, you obvioulsy listen to those who hound the world with their own rhetoric examples of how the world is getting hotter etc. Please do not only read the rubbish that is put out from one side but try and circumnavigate your logistical knowledge and reoccupy your mind with basic facts that are put out by both the denialist and those who want to put their own agenda on the table. It is a fact that these same scientist have manipulated the truth about many factors but do not want those who do not have the same view denied the chance to speak out, just in case, and I mean just in case it hurts their profound feelings.. That is why I make up my own mind and quite honestly, With regards to the Budget, the LNP is trying it's best to put this country back on track, you might not like the budget but if it was left upto those who were previously in government, by golly, we would not only be in trouble but would be in a situation worse off. If you cannot see that, I am afraid you will never ever realise the seriousness of the matter. That is why that same Labor party cannot find the "TRUTH" and the decency to expose themselves totally. These are the chaps who are the "DENIALIST" The government was elected with a mandate. I for one am willing to sacrifice whatever I can to make this country of ours a better place to live. Stop the rorts and welfare cheats - I have yet to hear Shorten and company to say this, instead they talk aboslute rubbish and if you cannot see and hear that, I am sorry. I for one am a passionate Aussie and value my opinion. Enjoy your day. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Robert:

I only listen to the 400+ scientists, all experts in their fields who are ADAMANT: CLIMATE CHANGE IS FOR REAL! The rest is bla bla bla... And I also "feel" that "change" myself, everyday, I see our seas rising more and more, I see my lawn not 'yellowing' in winter, for the past three years , I see the results of Far North Qld weather events, cyclones in the Sydney region (!), I know we have better address the problem, or we are, like Fenner and others, Lovelock, etc... keep/kept telling us: we will be"dead meat" before the end of the 21stcentury! And guess why farmers now vote for The Greens (refer last NSW election)? I think that being the first 'exposed', they have NOW got the message... 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Robert:

... and as far as "balancing the books", Robert, simple, the Libs have simply got to take the money where it is, they simply have to tax the filthy rich (companies and private) and remove the too many concessions offered by our government to those filthy rich, heaps of money to be made, not to worry! And the poor SHOULD not take the brunt of re-balancing the budget, will yield peanuts anyway, even cheats (not that many...) and single mothers being "taxed", won't help much neither... 

Robert
Robert from NSW commented:

Have you any idea what you are writing? Do you realise who the "filthy rich" employ. You and me. Please understand the fundementals of your entire statement. The 'filthy rich' do their bit in the running of the economy. It is the multi nationals that arr the ones that are not paying the taxes that they should. Now let's not get into who did this and who did that formulations. Both governments have been responsible for not cracking the whip and rollings ghese chaps over. Don't put the blame on the LNP at least they have now set up a committee to investigate the complexities of taxation and the closures of loopholes within the taxation system - this is not finished yet. Where do you get this notion that all ghe LNP wants to do is to hurt the poor. Sorry, once again your total understanding of what is going on federally is out of whack. You really have no idea. As I have said before, target all politicians rather than just the LNP, they are all soft on tackling issues that might infringe into their nest egg. Why not approach your local member and tell him what uou think of their perks, rather than just blame one political party. 'CHEATS' not many? You must be totally blind to this statement. Our country has become a welfare country. There are those who are genuine but there are those who would clean you and me up if they could and that is where the cheats are. Do you have any idea what our welfare bill is nationally? Bet you have no idea. Try and find out and if you are not surprised with what will hit your eyes then I can understand why you write nonsense. I think I have gone through enough. Enjoy the evening. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Robert:

A totally LNP discourse... You got 'the jab' from the Libs, the Nationals, did not you? Read the following: http://nsw.greens.org.au/news/nsw/big-winners-power-sell-bankers-and-managemen 

Robert
Robert from NSW commented:

you got the jab from those useless Greens. Please don't waste my time with greens rubbish. They have been a distructive mob both to Labor and the LNP. Nothing to be proud of. If you want to be brainwashed with a mob that has no consistent values, help yourself, but please avoid sending me rubbish. I will simply delete. You really have absolutely no idea, whichever way Iyou look at it. It was not complicated in corresponding with you but it was SAD that you have allowed yourself to write "RUBBISH". I as of now am off sight and out of the fifty club register. As a parting closure, please create your own opinions if you want a robust debate with anybody. Wishing you all the very best Mr or Mrs Anonoymous. or Ms. Have a wonderful year ahead and a great day but remember think about "OUR" country in the TRUE SENSE instead of yourself. Ciao. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Robert:

Well said Robert. At least most of the presenters on 2GB are well researched, so we can make up our own mind. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Warren:

I also know some used car salespersons and real estate agents who do an acceptable research before flogging their stuff, Warren, they are the exception... 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Warren:

THEY research... YOU make up your own mind!!! B*** S*** ! You get... BRAINWASHED by the CRAPPIEST OF CRAPS, Mate! 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

Let's make it clear I'm not your mate and never will be. I can't tolerate fools. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Warren:

Of course you think your "neighbours" of the kind I am, are "fools", 1st of all we can't stand -"fools" like me- the fascists at the helm of Australia at the moment -you would have voted for, too late, Warren-, then -"fools" like me- we do not want an underclass in Australia, and we behave as generous "humans", etc... etc... ( please refer to my com of this morning in reply to Alfred (29/5 at 10.35), here it is: Good! Alfred, that IS an improvement! When did we start to be interested in "others", in our neighbours in Australia? So we are no longer individualists, no longer part of a highly individualistic culture in Australia? Are we now interested in "others"? No more "Me Me Me, it's all about "You, You, You" now, is it? ... and "PLEASE, do not remain Anonymous!"... Good to know... But I still see fences around blocks, the almighty dollar has not lost its power neither and many have no other choice but to remain "Anonymous"... 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

What are you talking about - gobble de gook! 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to Robert:

Once again Allan, you have no clue. You are just shooting because you have nothing else to do. One eyed? Wow! I am far from being one eyed, but I can see you as being not only ignorant with your comment but being one eyed too. I really do not want to waste my time responding to a person who has absolutely no idea. You can thrash the 2gb listeners but you are blind to other facts so don't be stupid. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Allan:

Quite an incoherent comment. 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to Allan:

I listen to 2gb and 2ue. They both give both parties a run. Trouble is, one party is willing to talk (LNP), the other party (Labor) avoids talking just in case, yep! Just in case??? You see we are here and still listening to 2gb and sometimes 2UE. 'HONESTY' CAN STILL BE FOUND IF YOU LOOK HARD ENOUGH. CIAO AND 'HONESTLY' HAVE A GREAT DAY. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Robert:

I wish -and with hindsight, many LNP voters now wish, I am certain of it...- that ABBOTT had been MORE TALKATIVE before YOU elected HIM ! Voting AGAINST a party can create HAVOC if the party voted in is not very talkative, doesn't have a SOUND PLAN for Australia... It is always a good thing to ask questions before lodging that form in the ballot-box! 

Robert
Robert from NSW commented:

I have absolutely no idea who you are but if you look at your stupid comments about Abbott and the government then maybe it would be better to still be anonymous. You really have no idea. Goodbye, ciao. 

Robert
Robert from NSW commented:

I wish you would think about this more seriously and write something which makes sense. 'Sound planning'? Is that what Labor did? If that is what you are writing and thinking, by golly we in Australia are in trouble. You really have no idea. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Allan:

and at the bottom of the pit, after daylight is the ABC. 

Alistair
Alistair from NSW commented:

Why do we list comments from "Anonymous". If your fair dinkum, put your name to it. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Alistair:

Still, little left of our privacy -not for long...- I enjoy, myself, my dear... 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Alistair:

Play "the ball", not the fair dinkum "player"... 

Alistair
Alistair from NSW replied to Alistair:

Keep hiding 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Alistair:

Thanks and watch that "privacy" go, at the pace you keep supporting the extreme right of our political spectrum. 

Douglas
Douglas from NSW commented:

The main two factors that determine the Australian Right are: They believe that mathematics actually have relevance in political decisions. That paying loans back is more difficult than funding entitlements to the voters which are counter-productive and unwise in the long run. Less than 50% of them believe in God. Other than that Australians can vote a little left (mostly Liberal) more left, further left ( other Liberals the likes of Jason Wood & Greg Hunt), Labor and then the Greens on the extreme left. Not to mention Animal Justice Party off in lulu left land. What a choice. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Douglas:

The Greens are dead in the centre, it is misconception to place them at the very left of the political spectrum... They are in fact an entity of "their own", putting the planet firts, before the greed of human beings... 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

Absolute rubbish )planet/greed!!) I don't care where they 'sit'. They're part of the Labor Coalition and the extreme commo left. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Warren:

Let's put it this way: they are certainly not part of the obnoxious LNP now too far to the right of politics... They help Labor, yes, sometimes, when it agrees with their "modern and superior green" way of thinking... Climate change and mistreatment of refugees obliging (and the trampling of International Laws, too often by the LNP...) ... 

Robert
Robert from NSW replied to Alistair:

Wonderful comment. They are the ones who like to write something without knowing what they are writing about. A lovely comment Alistair. Good on you. 

Graeme
Graeme from QLD commented:

Our Labor polies got us into this financial debt and now they're apposing measures to repair the damage. "Let's just go to the money-tree or borrrow more to keep us afloat - don't worry about having to pay back the interest!" seems to be their attitude. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Graeme:

You DID fall for the slogans of the LNP, did not you, Graeme? It's called being "brainwashed" to my understanding of what the "emergency" we had to have is really like ... 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Graeme:

So, the fall of the price -for example- of iron ore has nothing to do with the current conjecture, Graeme? The GFC never existed neither? 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Graeme:

100% correct - rectification task is now more difficult than ever now the 'river of gold' Labor enjoyed from the mining industry has dried up. 

Gillian
Gillian from NSW commented:

Did all of the members of the Fifty Up Club fill in your survey? A survey such as this only reflects the opinions of those that filled the survey in, and that's all. To say we all agree the budget is fair is not correct unless everyone filled in your survey, which i doubt if every member did. 

ian
ian from NSW replied to Gillian:

spot on Gillian ! Ian nsw 

Colleen
Colleen from NSW commented:

In Question Time yesterday Bill Shorten was accused of being the Leader of the welfare Recipients and I agree with that. The only complaints are coming from the selfish individuals who 'think' the government should pay for their choices, they don't see that it is fellow tax payers who are really paying them, maybe their next door neighbours - a young working couple who can't have children or on the IVF program etc. There is no consideration for anyone else...just so me, me, me the generations these days are. These same people whinge that we are not paying enough foreign aid (who do deserve help) my mind boggles, these people wear blinkers every day or don't have a mirror to take a look at themselves. I am proud that our fifty up members and our generation live in a fairer thinking reality world. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Colleen:

"How much a week/a month" your " fairer thinking reality world ", Colleen ? 

Douglas
Douglas from NSW commented:

Colleen might live in the 33% + 10% + land tax, + stamp tax, + fuel tax + airport tax world where 50% of the 43% ++++ goes to pay the disadvantaged after being chewed up with administration fees ( public servants working to rule). The world where Anonymous and Labor think that expending 50% of tax receipts on welfare isn't fair. The world where everyone else thinks that spending 50% of national income tax on welfare is very fair. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Douglas:

Increase the tax intake... Easy to do, if you are the competent treasurer of a qualified -for the job- PM... 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Douglas:

We want jobs not a Labor/Union dependent welfare system. Wokks for the dole is a great and valued proposition. 

Greg
Greg from NSW commented:

Whilst the budget will have some negative impact on me personally, I think the budget deficit has to be addressed or there will be no future for my grandchildren. I see no reason why the GST can't be increased without any GST on fresh food. I also see no reason why a co-payment, limited to 10 per year for concession card holders , can't be introduced. We also have to shift the culture of entitlement. We must have bi-party agreement on this. Greg. Abbotsford NSW 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Greg:

Have Abbott and Hockey tax their friends the "big guns", then, not the weakest in our society... Scores of multinationals, of tax dodgers to TAX efficiently in Australia. 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

No idea what you're talking about. 

Kevin
Kevin from QLD replied to Greg:

Greg, I would increase the GST and have it paid on EVERYTHING. Then, I would reduce/remove some other taxes, charges or whatever anyone wants to call them; but only to a degree that the government could properly address the longterm financial NEEDS of the nation. Of course, there would need to be an upwards adjustment to welfare payments to cover most of the higher GST. Sold properly, it is my belief Australians would and will rally to the cause if they are shown their financial loss is/was in the best interests of the nation. This 2015 Budget will cost me (an aged pensioner) something in monetary terms, but it is also my belief NOW is the time to address the nation's future NEEDS. Budgeting is of course a very very complex undertaking (even my home budget) and I don't ever claim to have all the answers, but am prepared to lose a little now for the nation's longterm betterment. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Kevin:

I'm one with your thinking. Meg Lees did a huge injustice to Australia long term with her changes to GST. In short she butchered a great tax by the exemptions. I'm not sure any politician have the guts to change it though. NZ did and they're light years ahead now. 

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