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What should grandparents get in return for giving their grandkids ‘free’ childcare?

What should grandparents get in return for giving their grandkids ‘free’ childcare?

As a doting grandparent who  helps provide more childcare than any other formal service in Australia should you be paid for your services by the government or your own children?

This intriguing question follows a new report into the grey army which each week  looks after 837,000 kids and weighs up the costs and the benefits for all parties.

While most do it for love a third of those in the survey, from the National Seniors Productive Ageing Centre, incurred extras costs such as food, transport and outings.

The report, which you can see in full here (link  http://www.nationalseniors.com.au/be-informed/research/publications/grandparents)  says:

“When making the decision to take on a regular care commitment, the grandparents in the study did not weigh up the financial costs and benefits: most had not even made any attempt to calculate the household outlays associated with their care. Rather, many thought it was a normal part of their grandparent role.”

It might be being normalised but the statistics suggest  half of grandparents want  the government to compensate them for the amount of care they provide. In Australia only three percent get paid.

It’s not so crazy. In South Korea grandparents are not only paid typically about $800 a month for childcare by their grateful children but they are, according to reports, demanding even more.

And recognition can come in different ways. In the UK for example there’s a system of carer credits to the public  age pension for grandparents providing such childcare.

The survey highlighted the direct costs of the caring commitment with 70% altering the days and shifts they worked, 55% reducing their hours and even 18% changing their jobs.

Also one third of respondents reported their childcare duties meant they had to change the timing or expected timing of their retirement.

Of course many reported enjoying looking after their kids’ kids but not after a certain amount of time. 

Interestingly there’s ‘tipping point’ of 13 or more hours a week when it all becomes less enjoyable and the impacts on work and retirement are ramped up.

The conclusion of the survey is that there’s a policy black hole with no recognition of the importance of grandparent childcare to the wellbeing of families, communities and the economy.

It suggests policy reform to help these carers make better choices and mitigate the impact of providing ‘free’ childcare on their incomes, retirement plans and ability to work.

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David
David from VIC commented:

Crazy, I love my grand children and would never think of charging. An occasional voucher would be appreciated but not a regular income. It is not a job. Dave 

BRIAN
BRIAN from NSW commented:

If Parents are unable to look after their children the next best thing are their grandparents. This should be acknowledged by the government in helping financially as well as any help they might need in doing this most important "job"to give these children the life they deserve and guiding them in the right direction to make them respected members of our wonderful country. 

Rashik
Rashik from NSW commented:

Childcare is a Greatest responsibility. Grandparent must be paid for this duties. Based on the care and responsibilities provided with active outings & sincere care in general. 

Michele
Michele from NSW commented:

Simply put, grandparents can say "no". Family situations differ and if the parents feel they should or would like to help out with expenses then they should. A personal arrangement withing families, not Government. If Grandparents are looking to supplement their income (whether self funded or pension) by looking after children then they should be accredited (police checks, general caring capabilities assessed, home checked out, etc) and then be allowed to operate 'home care' centres for children. Stop the government handouts and encourage the attitude of recompense for effort. 

Margaret
Margaret from NSW commented:

I feel that parents are very selfish asking their parents to mind the grandchildren for nothing. I realise that in this day and age that women must be in the workforce e if they wish to purchase a home and live a decent life BUT I do think that if they are going to pressure their parents to take care of their offspring then they must compensate them. Most of the grandparents are living of either a m eagre superannuation or the pension and believe me that does not stretch very far. There fore they should give their parents AT LEAST $200 a week to feed the children if there is only one or two but it should be increased $50 for each extra child. After all they would b e up for much morfe at pre schools. 

Megan
Megan from NSW commented:

People decide to have children, not the government. It is just more Welfare and Nanny state to expect the government to finance a personal decision. If grandparents look after children (as we do) for the parents to work, it should be an arrangement between the parents and grandparents. We already subsidise far too much. 

Julie
Julie from NSW commented:

Surely one does it for love. It's time people took responsibility, and stopped expecting handouts. More money to hospitals and education. Not greedy grandparents. Take responsibility love not recompense. 

Annette
Annette from NSW commented:

The idea of paying grandparents to look after grandkids is ridiculous and fraught with problems: 1) It could be easily rorted. Who checks that the grandparents really are looking after the kids? 2) There is an equity problem. Not all kids have grandparents. What about the great aunts / neighbours / friends who look after them? Where would it stop? 3) Would the payment be assed as income and reduce the pension? 4) If the government paid someone to look after kids wouldn't they have to check that the carers were suitable? If a child was injured / killed while being cared for would the govt be liable? 5) Would there be a limit to how many kids one person could care for? 6) Wouldn't it put pressure on grandparents to look after grandkids even if they didn't want to. i.e. Why should someone else do it for free, if the govt would pay the grandparents? 7) Grandparents who did it for money, not love, wouldn't be suitable carers. 

Theo
Theo from NSW replied to Annette:

Hello, Annette, you have raised many good points and I agree with most of them. Though I find not ridiculous at all asking for financial support from government to look after grandchildren. Childcare is expensive because government's expectations and regulations, and also childcare workers do work and pay taxes, so some of the money goes back where it came from. Of course familywise many would do it for love would then be a family issue. The issue here is recognition by the country. Governments do what citizens find is right. Children are any country's best and most valuable assets. Just like junkies and crims are country's liabilities. If grandparents are involved in caring and shaping child's character to be good, this grandparent why not recognize their contribution? 

Debbie
Debbie from NSW commented:

I look after my grandson 5days a week so my daughter and her partner can both work. He does go to pre school 3 days from 9 to 3 l take him pick him up and stay till my daughter gets home. It costs them a lot just for 3 days . It would be nice to get a little bit of help for things like petrol the little you buy when you go out. 

Annette
Annette from NSW replied to Debbie:

But where would that stop? What about people who take their elderly parents to heaps of medical appointments. They don't get help to pay petrol. I don't think anyone should be paid / subsidised for helping family. 

Carol
Carol from NSW replied to Debbie:

Can't you ask your daughter and partner to give you petrol money. After all it is their child you are minding 

Vicki
Vicki from NSW commented:

As grandparents don't we do it for love and wanting to contribute to the families future Why do so many want to be paid these days for many services my parents and grandparents did for love I can't believe you would even explore this subject We need to stop this take take take culture that appears to becoming the norm these days Vicki 

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