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What the Budget means for FiftyUps

What the Budget means for FiftyUps

What the Budget means for FiftyUps

Everyone else is giving their verdict on the Budget today, so it’s important us older Australians get a word in edgeways – especially since issues around retirement planning have been, and will remain, a key battleground.

We’ve created a succinct survey on Joe Hockey’s plans for you to rate their fairness, impact, ability to change your vote and to meet our long-term challenges.

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So… what was there in it for you? It largely depends on your age, income and assets but there are key changes to pension eligibility and incentives to keep older Aussies in w

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Much of this we knew before Tuesday night, due to planned ‘leaks’, but now the political horse-trading begins meaning it’s even more important to know where your interests lie.

Cost of Living

The Treasurer seemed to take credit for the cost of living falling, due to somewhat cheaper electricity post the carbon tax and lower mortgage rates thanks to the Reserve Bank. He also told the ABC “petrol is cheaper than it has been”.

I’m sure a few self-funded retirees, suffering from still-very high energy and petrol bills and hit by ever lower interest rates on bank deposits, might beg to differ.

Pensions.

Joe Hockey sought to inspire some confidence on retirement incomes.

“I want to reassure all Australian workers that they can have confidence in their retirement plans under this government. There will be no new taxes on superannuation under this government, and their age pension will continue to increase twice a year this year and every year at the highest available index rate,” he said last night.

 “These measures are all intended to provide security and and certainty for older australians in the years ahead.”

The key ‘benefit’ to all pensioners is the dropping of plans to reduce the rate at which they were indexed. It never happened but generated plenty of fear and anger.

Despite fears of cuts to the Pensioner Concession Card, which delivers much-appreciated discounts on public transport, utilities, medicines and GPs, it has also been quarantined from changes.

So those who might lose access to the pension with the new assets test and still have the card will keep it.

But the real meat of the changes for older Australians involved tightening the pensions assets test, to keep the pension – more than 10% of government spending – sustainable and affordable.

The new thresholds to the pension-asset test and changes to the taper rate will see 50,000 more of us get the full pension. In addition, 122,000 part-pensioners will get another $30 a fortnight.

But the $44 billion annual bill for the Age Pension bill has been cut by $2.4 billion and there are some losers who, while they may be portrayed as relatively well-off, will have complaints.

By the government’s own figures they include 91,000 who will lose the pension altogether and 235,000 who will find their pension reduced.

The changes have been largely greeted by seniors’ group but analysts have pointed out it brings uncertainty into the incentives to save for your retirement. Under the changes some people who’ve saved more will end up worse off than those who’ve saved less.

In simple terms, as outlined by Andrew Main in Tuesday’s The Australian a home-owning couple, with assets outside the house worth less than $600,000, get a higher income than an otherwise similar couple with assets worth between $650,000- $1.1million.

He says the changes to the taper rate would leave a couple with $800,000 of assets about $12,000 a year worse off.

The argument around who gets what in the pension will continue, and that means over-50s will continue to feel insecure.

Work

The incentives for employers to engage older workers are to be overhauled with faster access to a $10,000 subsidy for hiring new workers aged over 50.

The program called Restart is meant to make it easier for older workers to get jobs. The Treasurer said the changes were designed to make the subsidies more available when and where they were needed.

You have to wonder whether the scheme is not working, given it’s only a year old.

There will also be a scheme to offer better training for older workers to find work instead of relying on benefits, which the FiftyUp Club has been calling for over a year. Read more about Seniors concerned about job competition here

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Phyllis
Phyllis from NSW commented:

I totally concur with Anonymous from Qld. 

Geoff
Geoff from QLD commented:

The pension is not a right though most think it is. Let's get away from the all for me syndrome and get off your arse and help yourself. The pension is there for those who truly need it. Super is there so you won't need the pension so why anyone thinks they should not continue to invest in it are really looking for a handout rather than improving their situation. As for 91000 losing the pension - so be it and maybe there should be a lot of others as well based on what I know about various retirees. Geoff 

Patricia
Patricia from NSW commented:

It appears that everyone has forgotten the debt this country is in and where and who is responsible for the debt. Bill Shorten when asked cannot remember that it was his party, the spent the money left by Howard and then ran up the billions we now have! Do we seriously want to end up like Greece Portgal. and Spain, with no money to pay any of their citizens their entitlements. Trying to regain balanced books for our country never was going to be easy but living with our huge debt and adding to it each day because citizens want the taxpayers to continue funding unrealistic and unafordable programs will only land us in a position of debt from which we will never recover. Patricia Sydney 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Patricia:

So, Pat, they should tax the several hundreds of multinationals (some our own...) who dodge taxes, they should put an end to the concessions offered to the big end of town for their mega supers, their negatively geared properties, their family trusts, they should stop subsidizing the big miners, they should etc... etc... NOT take from the poorest to give to the richest... 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Alain:

.../... and sorry, the most lucrative of all: they should TAX financial transaction speculative in nature, not small bank deposits, NO! Investments on the movement of 'derivatives' etc... A small 0.5 % would achieve a lot... 

Don
Don from NSW commented:

Will the restart program be like the other work incentive schemes where you have to be employed for a certain amount of time and when that was over the employee was made redundant so that they could rehire another person and then get the incentive payment over again. This is what happened in the past. 

Alain
Alain from NSW commented:

Some friends are telling me that yes, we are governed by the far right of politics, not only are the arts now controlled as they feel fit but unlike European countries where once one reaches the age of retiring one can reside where he feels suitable for him/her (usually 6 months there and 6 months somewhere else, often...) ... Here it is going to be a different story (they had intended to spend 6 months in Bali every year after a long life of hard labour the two of 'em) and here is what they sent me (YOU WILL THANK GOD FOR LABOR & THE MORE MARGINAL PARTIES, IT SHOULD NOT GO THRU SO MUCH YOUR INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM WOULD BE AFFECTED!): The government plans to save $168.6 million over four years from January 1, 2016 by changing pension eligibility requirements for those living overseas. Australians on some types of pension, including the Disability Pension and the Age pension will have the rate of their payments cut after being overseas for more than six weeks, down from the previous limit of 26 weeks. 

Geoff
Geoff from QLD replied to Alain:

Oh the poor bastards!!! What has their hard labour produced that they have to rely on the pension to provide a lifestyle that the majority have no chance of enjoying. Thank God for Labor??? Which party put us in the predicament we are in now. Bloody Labor. Again people wanting handouts - and if you want to live overseas go but stay there and stop the whingeing. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Geoff:

You are clearly on the far right of things, as was the 'white Australia' policy... That is your right, but there is no room in heaven for fascists, I thought you would want to know... After the last world wars I thought you would have been a dead & buried breed... 

Geoff
Geoff from QLD replied to Alain:

Just who do you think you are?? I am no fascist and yes I am right leaning (note the lack of "far"). You have not advised why you believe the Labor party are going to save us and to your surprise I do not agree with everything the LNP do (eg paid parental leave, 6 months wait for dole (now only 4 weeks), cut off incomes too high for handout payments and so on). Pray tell in your 81 years what did you do to help in your retirement years. Expect the rest of us to support you. Please tell me why my taxes should pay for somebody to enjoy a lifestyle that most are unable to enjoy. If people can afford to live overseas for an extended period then live on your own savings and not let the rest of us subsidise you. However if you need assistance I do believe you should be able to access it. The problem today is that most people have become handout oriented rather than looking at how they can be self sufficient. To answer your other response, no I am not a privileged boss but I, with my wife, am self employed with no other staff. I am over the retirement age and still working so please don't crack on about fascism and privilege. Just another point, would you please draw a straight line between how the LNP are going to send us bust and China going broke. Mutually exclusive, because if China goes I can assure you it will not matter which party is in government, our future will be very bleak for some time. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Geoff:

To be further to the right (notice I did not write 'far') there are criterias one must fill: one must consider that dole recipients ("" "" 'bludgers'...) are lazy people who don't want to wake up to go to work, one must consider that there is a line (not that straight) around Australia which allows us to infringe our obligations as a signatory of a number of international agreement (some resolutions of the United nations), and allowing us to close ourselves within that line, hence ignoring the rest of the planet but soon being ignored as well by the rest of the humans inhabiting this planet, although not as worth as US since not within that line... If China goes, yes we will go 'cause some voted for politicians who are only capable of moving 'figures' have NO vision whatesoever for the country and 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Alain:

.../... what counts really, is what is effectively in THAT budget and 'THAT', is an absolute disaster for a majority in this country, we are not a poor country, you see and if the excessive number of pollies decide to protect their own patch, decide to invent an 'emergency' (as pretext) and impose upon us a 'SURPLUS' (when balancing the 'books' would be sufficient) , they should not punish that majority to achieve their close to criminal objectives, with the endorsement of some in this country... 

Someone
Someone from QLD commented:

Why do people earning $165000 , per year , need childcare assistance , and they will take it ! .and yet most people on pension are expected to live on about $24000 per year , I think there should be a better spread of benefit payments than this type of abuse of the older generation , who never had he opportunity to have Super, and those who have lost money because of poor advice from rogue Financial Planners , 

Gertraud
Gertraud from ACT commented:

Perhaps because childcare should actually be a tax deduction? 

Alain
Alain from NSW commented:

'cause they vote for the mob, they vote for the LNP... What a pathetic mob! 

Alain
Alain from NSW commented:

( Continued - The end ) .../... 'Devastating move' The arts sector has reacted largely with dismay to the budget measures, described by some as a "devastating move" for the small to medium arts sector. Australian Theatre for Young People artistic director Fraser Corfield said he feared the changes would advantage bigger arts organisations and companies at the expense of their smaller counterparts. "My fear is that it will disproportionately advantage the larger, better connected arts organisations and companies," Mr Corfield said. "Looking at the youth theatre sector, which is nationally the smallest and least funded of arts organisations, it's going to be very difficult to get traction in that sort of funding environment." Mr Dreyfus predicted the changes were the latest bid by the Abbott Government to "grab direct control over the arts", and predicted they would lead to job losses in the cultural sector. "This is a Government that says it supports freedom of expression but will only fund those who agree with them," Mr Dreyfus said. "... Senator Brandis is now intent on building a grand new private arts fiefdom to dole out money according to his own personal whims and wishes. "It creates a whole new parallel funding process without any published criteria or peer review." 

Alain
Alain from NSW commented:

The same thing happened in Nazi Germany, it is incredible !!! The State took over the Arts, they wanted to make sure that Nazis would not be distracted by subversive art !!! Please, read: Just last week federal Arts Minister George Brandis and members of the Australia Council were on top of the world, together proudly celebrating the opening of the new Australia Pavilion at the Venice Biennale. This week their working relationship is being sorely tested with the announcement in Tuesday night's federal budget of more than $105 million in cuts to the nation's peak cultural funding and advisory body. Changes to arts funding revealed in the budget include diverting $104.7 million from the Australia Council to a new National Programme for Excellence in the Arts, to be administered by the Arts Ministry. [Source SMH] 

Alfred M
Alfred M from QLD commented:

We are nearly 80 years of age, and we will never see this wonderful country get out of debt, and as long as the Politicians keep getting obscene Salaries and Superannuation payouts, plus not having the ability to keep their snouts out of the trough and have some sort of honesty, the country will be in debt forever. They suggest cutting down on Pensions, what about cutting down on their Super, which comes from the Taxpayer. 

Geoff
Geoff from QLD replied to Alfred M:

And pray tell how will a few thousand dollars get rid of the billions?? Besides new pollys are on the same type of super scheme as everybody else now and is nothing like it was, thank goodness. 

john
john from NSW commented:

My wife and I worked hard all our working life and saved as much as we could towards our retirement so we could enjoy some of the good things such as the occasional holiday etc without struggling. We are quite happy to only get a part pension and make up the rest ourselves from our super fund,. However the government seems to want to keep on taking more and more from us because we did without and saved when we could. We have friends who gambled and drank all their money away and have no retirement nest egg and they get all the government help - where's the incentive to save when it's taken from you later when you want to enjoy it. 

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