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We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

 

Political manoeuvring this week saw the Greens back the government’s changes to the pension assets test, saving the budget a handy $2.4 billion but injecting even more uncertainty into superannuation.

Ballooning costs are good reasons to amend retirement incomes policy, as our members acknowledge, but not everyone should be happy with them being subject to 11th hour back-room political fixes to sidestep Labor’s opposition to the changes.

After months of promises that super policy would be left alone, the Greens have put super under the spotlight of the forthcoming tax review in ways which will naturally unsettle many of those counting on some greater certainty around their nest egg and protection from government raids.

The PM and Shorten have taunted each other by claiming, in the one simple take-out from events, that Labor is going after super and the government is targeting pensions.

In our last survey before the Budget, two-thirds said it was time to review tax concessions on super for those with large super balances.

But a larger majority (72%) of the 13,000 respondents supported the idea floated by former premier Jeff Kennett and others for a permanent, bipartisan body to make long–term retirement policy decisions.[1]

And dozens of comments echoed the fiery sentiment that we couldn’t trust the political process to provide stable policy on retirement incomes and it’s time it was outsourced to an independent Reserve Bank-style statutory body.

The conflicting commentary on the radio today and the concerned and confused questions from callers suggests ongoing problems around the tightened assets test, which doesn’t actually apply until Jan 2017.

Some will point out it’s only returning the status quo on eligibility to where it was before the then-PM John Howard made generous concessions before an election in 2007. And even if you are less eligible for the pension you’ll still get the seniors health card and its discounts.

The raw figures show while 170,000 less well-off retirees will then get an extra $30 a fortnight, amongst the better-off some 90,000 will lose the part-pension altogether and a quarter of a million will have it reduced.

But better-off on paper isn’t “rolling in it” in reality. This was the argument which Labor seemed to be advancing, until they were trumped politically by the Greens.

So far we haven’t heard much of the plight of these so-called ‘losers’ from the bargain with the government and the Greens, but there may be more to come.

The Australian Seniors group have highlighted the problem for single pensioners with not always  flash levels of  assets. Their part pensions would erode with $500,000 of assets, besides the family home, leaving them worse off than if they relied entirely on a pension. But the government says they should be drawing down on their assets, not planning to pass them on.

For couples who hold assets on top of the home, the new level will be $823,000.

Whichever way you cut the numbers, or perceive the fairness or otherwise of the eligibility changes, it’s more likely that ever that polarised policies will propel pensions and super to the fore of the next election.

And that’s why we’ve renewed our call today in support of the Jeff Kennett idea. Let us know what you think in the forum below.

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Keith
Keith from NSW commented:

Mr Zinn you left out those of us who are on a defined benefit pension. In NSW that includes former nurses firemen, prison staff and I think Police, all of those former state employees on state super.. The Commonwealth Govt are reducing the component of state pensions that is not counted as assessable income for an aged or disability pension to 10%. This is to take effect from 1 Jan 2016 (not 2017). Our reduction in pension will be $286 per fn. We had to make decisions on our retirement incomes years ago and cant change them we must just suffer the cuts. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Keith:

You forgot to add: "[public servants] who contributed "massive" amounts into their Super, amounts matched by the State with a multiplication effect of something like 2 or 3 times (?) ... Did not last very long, though... Yes those ones are penalized I would imagine, would it be by losing the health care card/concession card... 

Carolyn
Carolyn from NSW commented:

Keep the politicians noses out of the trough and be guided by an independent authority 

Graeme
Graeme from NSW commented:

I agree you cannot trust politicians with our Super. But, who would comprise the RBA style forum? How would they be appointed and sacked? 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Graeme:

Like in Iceland (from CE): An assembly was elected over there to write a new constitution (based on that of Denmark) to avoid entrapments of debt based currency foreign loans. 25 citizens are chosen — with no political affiliation — out of the 522 candidates. The only qualifications for candidacy are adulthood and the support of 30 people. The constitutional assembly started in February of 2011. It continues to present ‘carta magna’ from recommendations provided by various assemblies throughout the country. Ultimately, it must be approved by both the current Parliament and the one created through the next legislative election. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Alain:

Are you for real? 

Geoffrey
Geoffrey from NSW commented:

I could not agree more we as mature citizens who have worked hard to provide for our families and who have never had to take any assistant from the government but who have payed our taxes responsibly and who look forward to retirement with our super and investments i am getting extremely annoyed and disgusted with politicians especially of those who i have voted for and put my faith in them to be let down by playing populist politics and to keep damaging my qaulity of life as i age i will show my disgust at the next election as well as letting my local member how thier policies are hurting us and to puy our interets in capable hands who will be there to look after our future coreectly and professionaly without political interference 

Robyn
Robyn from QLD commented:

I agree with the Jeff Kennett model, but would go one step further and put politicians pensions and superannuation in the same scheme so that the one body was responsible for "ALL" pensions and superannuation. Pension and superannuation funds should be government guaranteed funds for local, state and federal governments to obtain loans from at reasonable market rates so that everyone benefits from all this money that is tied up in private funds here and overseas. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Robyn:

A State is now PAID to borrow, interest rates are NEGATIVE on capital markets! 

Carolyn
Carolyn from NSW commented:

Keep the politicians noses out of the trough and have an independent authority 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Carolyn:

US, the citizens of Australia, no, I am serious... 

Alain
Alain from NSW commented:

An " independent authority is required" many write, 'that' authority could be US: http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/11/why-did-media-keep-the-recent-peaceful-icelandic-revolution-quiet/ 

margaret
margaret from NSW commented:

the only pensions not facing manipulation seem to be pollies and ex pollies, their magnificent perks also seem to be immune to pilfering. The age of entitlement only applies to some. The rest have to pay the piper. 

Norm
Norm from NSW commented:

Well said Russell, the Pollies should be setting an example for everyone. Norm Sydney. 

Patricia
Patricia from NSW commented:

I don't understand Jeff Kennett's proposal but I do understand that when a politician leaves Parliament he/she goes on a pension for life - one rule for them and one for us and that is wrong. When they leave Parliament they all go into another job and still collect the pension - that's double-dipping. You and I can't do that, our pension is reduced depending on the amount we earn. The pension should commence at the same age as everyone else's and no double-dipping. Patricia 

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