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We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

We want clarity and security around Retirement incomes, not backroom deals

 

Political manoeuvring this week saw the Greens back the government’s changes to the pension assets test, saving the budget a handy $2.4 billion but injecting even more uncertainty into superannuation.

Ballooning costs are good reasons to amend retirement incomes policy, as our members acknowledge, but not everyone should be happy with them being subject to 11th hour back-room political fixes to sidestep Labor’s opposition to the changes.

After months of promises that super policy would be left alone, the Greens have put super under the spotlight of the forthcoming tax review in ways which will naturally unsettle many of those counting on some greater certainty around their nest egg and protection from government raids.

The PM and Shorten have taunted each other by claiming, in the one simple take-out from events, that Labor is going after super and the government is targeting pensions.

In our last survey before the Budget, two-thirds said it was time to review tax concessions on super for those with large super balances.

But a larger majority (72%) of the 13,000 respondents supported the idea floated by former premier Jeff Kennett and others for a permanent, bipartisan body to make long–term retirement policy decisions.[1]

And dozens of comments echoed the fiery sentiment that we couldn’t trust the political process to provide stable policy on retirement incomes and it’s time it was outsourced to an independent Reserve Bank-style statutory body.

The conflicting commentary on the radio today and the concerned and confused questions from callers suggests ongoing problems around the tightened assets test, which doesn’t actually apply until Jan 2017.

Some will point out it’s only returning the status quo on eligibility to where it was before the then-PM John Howard made generous concessions before an election in 2007. And even if you are less eligible for the pension you’ll still get the seniors health card and its discounts.

The raw figures show while 170,000 less well-off retirees will then get an extra $30 a fortnight, amongst the better-off some 90,000 will lose the part-pension altogether and a quarter of a million will have it reduced.

But better-off on paper isn’t “rolling in it” in reality. This was the argument which Labor seemed to be advancing, until they were trumped politically by the Greens.

So far we haven’t heard much of the plight of these so-called ‘losers’ from the bargain with the government and the Greens, but there may be more to come.

The Australian Seniors group have highlighted the problem for single pensioners with not always  flash levels of  assets. Their part pensions would erode with $500,000 of assets, besides the family home, leaving them worse off than if they relied entirely on a pension. But the government says they should be drawing down on their assets, not planning to pass them on.

For couples who hold assets on top of the home, the new level will be $823,000.

Whichever way you cut the numbers, or perceive the fairness or otherwise of the eligibility changes, it’s more likely that ever that polarised policies will propel pensions and super to the fore of the next election.

And that’s why we’ve renewed our call today in support of the Jeff Kennett idea. Let us know what you think in the forum below.

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Margaret
Margaret from QLD commented:

I think that there should be an independent group of people to deal with pensions and not the politicians who are only concerned with their fat salaries and pay rises, that they should only get whilst in office, with no big retirement pension, and with all the expenses they accrue it would get rid of all or most of the deficit. It is a priviledge to be in government and not a right Margaret Curtis 

Rob
Rob from NSW commented:

Its time we were heard...again, and forcefully. The constant ebb and flow of the political whims of the day never allow for the fact that the retirement decisions and COMMITMENTS we dedicated our working lives towards happened years ago, and in good faith, we have the ABSOLUTE right to expect that those decisions and commitments are honored. Political decisions can be made by planning into the future to meet expectations and needs. Retirees and near future retirees don't have their futures in which to plan for, they only have pasts now. Now, is their future, the future they spent their lives paying for. Their plans, sacrifices and commitments were made and paid, and done so responsibly and as advised and in good faith. If the politicians of the day find that their forbears have left them with a mess, then it is incumbent upon them to find EQUITABLE solutions and not to punish the very people whose hard work was squandered by irresponsible previous governments. If that's tough on the present politicians then its a lesson they need to learn. We've all had to knuckle down over our lives and suck it up often enough, maybe our politicians need to do a bit of it too. God knows, their futures are so heavily and blatantly loaded in their favor, they will never know what its like to have to even think about budgeting for things as basic as warmth, food, and life's most basic needs, far unlike the significant majority of the people that this subject matter directly affects. To be even thinking about meddling with retirees "anythings", is a concept that speaks of pure callousness, inhumanity, and an utter contempt and disrespect of the highest order against the people of this nation. It is tantamount to having the same lack of concern and total disrespect to those who fought for and died for this nation, in fact had they not died fighting for Australia, they would be amongst those that these meddling s are currently being directed towards. Its outright disgusting. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Rob:

Slightly emotive, but well said Rob. 

Rob
Rob from NSW replied to Warren:

Thanks for your comment Warren. Yes my comment is emotive, but then what would you expect, spending an entire working life only to see my plans being hacked to pieces when like all people my age, we don't have another life time to adjust and make corrections for what shouldn't be necessary in the first place. That demands an emotional response. Jeff Kennett's suggestion is right on the mark, remove our lifetime of work and plans for our futures away from political influence, is the only way retirees will ever have some assurance of the futures that a life of planning for can be realized. If I was a younger person entering the workforce these days Id be extremely concerned to be witnessing these current maneuverings, and Id would be seriously concerned to know what my future might end up like at the end of my working life if this type of behavior is accepted and tolerated. 

Roger
Roger from NSW commented:

Jeff Kennett's idea is worth pursuing. The RBA is independent of government and super decisions need to be taken away from the politicians. Super is there to provide a reasonable (call it a 3 star) retirement income. It is NOT there to provide a 5 star retirement income at other taxpayers expense. If you want that, then you provide it yourself. It does, though, need to somehow encourage those who have no tax incentive to contribute to super. Roger 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Roger:

Superannuation needs to be taken out of the grasp of Union/ACTU/Labor. That's the prime problem in Australia. 

Max
Max from QLD commented:

What more is there to say? The present situation is in keeping with all the other incompetant and badly made decisions of the government. Max Wilson 

Ivan
Ivan from NSW commented:

we have seen what an RBA looks like , and i don't want them in control of my super ... at least WE have some control because WE elect the pollies ,and they listen ... some remote committee will be immune from publuc pressure ... NOT what i want .. 

jeffrey
jeffrey from NSW commented:

I fully support taking control away from politicians into the hands of a suitably qualified panel who possess the foresight to encourage saving & establishing asset levels which are fair to all. 

Ian
Ian from NSW commented:

The fact that self funded retirees should look after themselves wherever possible is not unreasonable, except that when you consider the reduced pension thresholds, (and therefore the removal of part pensions and concessions), it will force these retirees onto a full blown government pension much sooner (and at a lower standard of living), as their assets are whittled away faster, through cost of living increases, and minimal investment returns. Retirees and pensioners have little, or no, opportunity to build savings, and with a life expectancy of some 20 plus years in retirement this will lead to certain hardship for many in this group. 

Bob
Bob from NSW replied to Ian:

I agree with you Ian. But how can we get our political leaders to agree. 

Greg
Greg from QLD commented:

Greg Qld. No RBA type thingo, or Politicions, that includes ex Politicions. Let it be run by a board of well known and proven Superannuation company's with their heads on chopping block. 

david
david from QLD commented:

There should be absolutely no retrospective changes. Those of us who have been out of the workforce for a good period are unable to alter our income arrangements. We played by the rules and were encouraged to retire early to make way for job seekers, now we are going to have incomes reduced compounding the issue of low returns on capital. We fully self-funded retirees place no burden on any government coffers at all. We already save about $50000.00 per annum in pensions, concessions and health support. Just let us rest. Once we have passed, why not balance the ledger by taxing our super within our estates after both partners have died? Governments are welcome to impose death duties on the other assets in our estate once both partners have died. Set a good rate of death duties and the government will make a "killing". In the meantime self-funded retirees will continue to place no burden on the public purse. Fair swap? David Qld 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to david:

Nothing retrospective with this legislation David. If you're self funded, there is no concern at all. 

Robyn
Robyn from QLD commented:

I have never trusted any gov no matter which one to take care of my hard earned money! Take as much as I can out and put it safely away from their grabbing hands! 

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