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 Power Cuts or Power Bill Cuts – Does it really come down to a choice?

Power Cuts or Power Bill Cuts – Does it really come down to a choice?

Who do you believe – the energy regulator charged with putting the long-term interests of consumers first? Or the NSW ‘poles and wires’ companies which actually deliver the stuff? 

That’s essentially the argument behind a high stakes legal stoush which will determine the size of planned 5-12% reductions to your next electricity bills.

And it’s especially important for older Australians who generally face higher bills. They are at home more, spend a higher proportion of their income on electricity; and are hit harder by climbing supply charges.

But those big savings promised to consumers are now under threat as the poles and wires companies and the NSW state government which owns them launch legal appeals against planned price cuts due on July 1.

So the FiftyUp Club is going to launch an appeal of its own: from today we’re asking you, the members, to send us your views on the legal battle, and tell us how higher electricity costs have impacted on your wallet and way of life.

Click Here to have your say by answering a few questions and commenting in our FiftyUp Forum

Read on to see what’s at stake, send in your comments and ideas and we’ll package them up for the tribunal hearing the case to ensure your voice is heard.

THE FULL STORY

The Australian Energy Regulator (AER) has fixed a five-year pricing determination which cut the amounts the NSW state-owned poles and wires businesses could charge us by some $6 billion to 2019.

It adds up to big savings for the consumer of between $100 and $300 a year depending where you live. It is aimed to bring the costs of delivery to NSW households in line with those levied by the privately-owned networks in SA and Victoria. Presently they can be twice as much.

We’re told those networks are more efficient and employ less workers, delivering lower costs to consumers. Falling demand for electricity means there’s also less need to build expensive ‘gold plated’ networks.

It was the massive investment and poorly controlled spending in the high-tech and high-cost ‘poles and wires’, including pylons and transformers, which saw many bills blow out by more than 70% in the past five years.

Network costs can add up to almost 60% of some people’s energy bills especially if they live in the higher cost of service rural areas.

But the NSW government and their poles and wires companies have lodged appeals to the Australian Competition Tribunal, claiming the cuts to their revenue mean they can’t operate safely or reliably.

They are backed by the trade unions as 2,200 jobs are at stake. The network companies say they have already shaved more than $3 billion and 3000 jobs from their capital and operating programs.

They also claim the cuts mean they can’t manage vegetation growth in rural areas, which, as the 2009 Victorian bushfires demonstrated, can carry serious risks.

Their arguments may sound convincing but have drawn fire from numerous quarters.

The ALP says the AER’s decision is fair and the NSW Government only wants to increase the waning value of the networks – a large part of which are up for a $13 billion long-term lease.

Groups representing consumers, welfare and business have also attacked the appeal and the Public Interest Advocacy Centre has brought its own legal challenge arguing for even bigger spending cuts on the networks.

To have your say, help us put together a submission to the Competition Tribunal.  Spend a few minutes answering the snap poll above on how power prices have affected your life, and leave a comment in our forum below.

We will report back soon on the next steps and make sure the voice of FiftyUps is heard.

From Christopher Zinn & The FiftyUp Club Team

Useful Links:

Daily Telegraph, 21 May, 2105, "Networks NSW will appeal energy regulators decision to cut the price of power bills for consumers": www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/networks-nsw-will-appeal-energy-regulators-decision-to-cut-the-price-of-power-bills-for-consumers/story-fni0cx12-1227363388780

Sydney Morning Herald, 21 May 2015, "Electricity price cuts, privatisation plans under threat as power networks set up fight with regulator": www.smh.com.au/business/electricity-price-cuts-privatisation-plans-under-threat-as-power-networks-set-up-fight-with-regulator-20150521-gh6meh.html

The Australian, 21 May, 2015, "NSW power networks to fight cuts in court": http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/nsw-power-networks-to-fight-cuts-in-court/story-e6frg8zx-1227364313737

 

 

 

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Barry
Barry from NSW commented:

Labour and the greens are the cause of the mess this country is in financially. They are both to blame for the high cost of power because of their stupid Green Schemes. We need more coal fired power generators to keep costs down. Do your homework. God help us if Labour gets back in again. Barry from NSW. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Barry:

What about climate change? Wait and see the Paris conference how we are going to be once again named and shamed! We have too many selfish brats in this country whose vision stops when they pass away, not soon enough for some... 

Barry
Barry from NSW replied to Alain:

Alain please open your eyes. We all believe in climate change and that's because the climate changes all the time. What you are really referring to is Global Warming. You and your fellow believers don't like the term global warming because there is no evidence of any significant warming. Who cares what they think of us in Paris, or anywhere else for that matter. I have grandchildren and I care about what we are leaving for them but I am also a realist and I don't believe in throwing money away on green schemes that do absolutely nothing but drive up energy costs. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Barry:

They know too well the "convict" mentality of the individualist Aussie, no worries 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Alain:

Very poor form Alain - you obviously hold a grudge. Get over it. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Barry:

That is LNP's propaganda... The GFC and price of iron ore and other mineral resources is the problem, we have such stupid governments that no one was prepared for the turn in the economy, we are doomed in Australia, we have elected incompetent politicians (not Statesmen/women) ... If the GDP figures had been worse today, Hockey would have lost his job, they turned out almost good, as if he received some divine help... 

Barry
Barry from NSW commented:

How many times does it have to be said. Get your head out of the sand. I'll keep it simple for you. No Labour government has ever had a surplus. The LNP comes in after Labour has trashed the Country and they have to make the hard decisions that none of us like. When everything is going OK lunatics like yourself vote Labour back in to trash the place again. 

Gertraud
Gertraud from ACT replied to Barry:

"We need more coal fired power generators to keep costs down." That's the last thing we need! 

Gertraud
Gertraud from ACT replied to Barry:

" We need more coal fired power generators to keep costs down" That's the last thing we need! 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

Frankly, who want an ex merchant banker, a bankster for Premier??? You have got to be real nuts! Chris 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

Well Chris/Anonymous. I would rather a person with life experience and a very credential person as our current Premier as compared with the born and breed Union Hacks you obviously advocate. The ICAC in NSW has a long way to go to uncover all ALP/Union corruption. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Warren:

A majority of the rest of the 50+ club members, like me, doesn't seem to be too happy with your favourite ex bankster of Baird... that's all 

Barry
Barry from NSW replied to Alain:

Would you prefer to have a Union Leader run the State or Country. You are a raving madman. You have a lot of opinions but you don't do your homework. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Barry:

WOuld do a better job than the fascists you put in power... You are not even conscious of it, of the dangers for our society of such a mob... Read the latest comments by an Anonymous and discover that what you have done in electing Abbott is going to change this country forever your grand children will point their fingers at you, I can promise you that for a fact 

Barry
Barry from NSW replied to Alain:

Alain, I will make one final comment to you. I know you won't believe me when I say. I had been a member of a union almost all of my working life and I was happy to be a union member, they did a lot for me. I was a Labour voter until Kevin Rudd came along and then Julia Gillard. It was at that time I started having a good look at what Labour and the Greens were doing to our country. Instead of blindly sticking to Labour like I would my footy team I now look at what is best for my country and I vote accordingly. One thing I have learned is that Union Leaders are very good at running Union affairs but they shouldn't be running our country. Also my grandchildren will know that I put some thought into who I vote for. I am not just waving flags and screaming fascist. P.S You didn't day if you come from Nimbin or not. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Alain:

Premier Baird did win the last election with a substantial majority together with his energy plans known. Where do you get your facts from. 

Rodney
Rodney from NSW replied to Warren:

Alain and Barry You have BOTH missed the boat as far as politics is concerned. You both spell the "peoples party as labour'. As I was told by my old man (a coal miner and very left wing) this party they call labour is a disgrace as they left U out of the party it is spelt LABOR short for a bunch of wa..kers. RodF. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Rodney:

It escapes me sometimes, yes... Thanks, just in case someone would not understand whom we are talking about... 

Barry
Barry from NSW replied to Rodney:

Thanks for the spell check Rodney. I like your father was a coal miner working both open cut and under ground for 30 years. I only reached year 8 at school so maybe you can forgive one spelling mistake. Unfortunately people like myself blindly followed Labor because we were brought up that way and we did not take an interest in what was going on in politics. Firstly Kevin Rudd and then Julia Gillard made me very aware of what Labor are all about. It was because of them that I will never vote Labor again. Bill Shorten won't be any different because he is tied to the greens and together they will again undo all of the good work the Libs are doing. The borders will open up to anyone wanting an easy life. They will again start throwing money at green schemes that are a total waste of money. 

Someone
Someone from NSW replied to Barry:

Do like me, be smart, VOTE FOR THE GREENS! 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

'Smart' and 'Greens' is an oxymoron - same as NSW 'A'. 

Alain
Alain from NSW replied to Warren:

That IS a very tired view of The Greens, would not you be a bit olf-fashioned, Warren? Your children and grandchildren will NOT thank you for that one, Warren, $ before people is not what your children, nor grand children will want from us 

Rodney
Rodney from NSW commented:

Everyone will pay higher prices while very WEAK governments and regulators fail dismally to take the BIG end of town to task. WHY should a group of us be ALLOWED to get a discount of up to 18% off our bills? The government knows only too well if one can get a huge discount they should legislate POWER BILLS FROM TODAY MUST REDUCE BY say 15% to ALL households. I do get a good deal from my NEW supplier "click" but we are Australians "one in ALL in". Sorry for upsetting a few who do not look at the BIG picture but as they say s..t happens PS; I have NOT paid 1 cent in electricity bills for 4 1/2 years as a group of people around my area invested in SOLAR which is a far better return than banks 30 to 40%. Stop crying we ALL had the same opportunity . Kind regards RodF. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Rodney:

You can thank us RodneyF for your continuous generous rebate/position, provided then by Fed Labor/Greens and the then NSW Labor Government. We are all paying for this with increased prices in energy. Don't get me wrong though - well done for taking up the offer. It provided a lot of jobs at the time. 

Rodney
Rodney from NSW replied to Warren:

I would thank ONLY the dopey LABOR govt for being so forthcoming with these ill thought out policies. I can only take an offer if I see it benefits me and I was helped by my 2 daughters to get this on . Further to the perks available. i.e. If a person with $1 million to invest that person would definitely get a better deal. I also do not believe that solar is the BIGGEST problem with prices BUT the very high subsidies provided to the overseas companies for their WIND FARMS. this is ALL taxpayer funded and runs into BILLIONS per year. Regards RodF 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to Rodney:

Good comment Rodney - PS: Have a look at Pacific Hydro and tell me who owns this PTY LTD. 

Sue
Sue from VIC commented:

Energy prices are far too high for the average person. Young families also need to be taken into consideration with energy costs. 

Phillip
Phillip from VIC commented:

Thank you - I am personally convinced something is wrong with my solar, but here is the problem: every 'expert' says something different. Some say it will feed the house first, others say that is not so. Some say it goes across all rooms and phases (we run a 3-phase system) while others say no, it can be sent to a specific system such as our pool pumps or laundry. An issue the Fiftyupclub should address is how we get honest information. 

Gertraud
Gertraud from ACT replied to Phillip:

It depends on what type of arrangement you have. If you have one of the old gross feed-in tariffs, all of the energy generated goes straight into the grid and you draw the energy needed in your house from the grid. My system is on a gross feed-in tariff. If it is not on a gross feed-in, then the energy produced by your panels is first used by the appliances in your house and any excess is fed into the grid, any shortfall is drawn from the grid. And no, you can't choose where the energy goes to, why would you even want to? 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

You wanted ex merchant banker Baird, you have now got him, bankster Baird and his narrow Christian mind, or is he really a Christian? Idiots who take from the poorest in our society to give to the richest are anything BUT Christians. 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

It's a real weakness in your character to drag someone down in order to build up your own case. Very poor form NSW 'A'. 

marino
marino from NSW commented:

I was always convinced that selling off poles and wires by the Baird Government was going to mean higher power bills. The mathematics just didn't add up. 

Warren
Warren from NSW replied to marino:

Only sheep would follow you 'lamb' comment marino. 

Peter
Peter from QLD commented:

Agree with Lorna from Qld 

robert
robert from NSW commented:

OOPS! The 400pc should have read 200pc based on the disparity between price rise and pension adjustments which should have occurred due to cost of living and of course didn't. 

Brian
Brian from NSW commented:

The electricity costs started to increase about the same time as the Labor government subisdised renewable energy like solar and wind energy the most expensive energy compared to the good old coal powered stations. If the solar and wind is so dam good stop spending tax payers dollars helping them , get them to stand on there own two feet . As that is also increasing power costs . 

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